Debate bullying and school violence

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What's your solution for school bullying?

  1. Having school laws against bullying

    8 vote(s)
    25.0%
  2. Forgiving (by law) those who get even (just fists, no weapons) at bullies

    7 vote(s)
    21.9%
  3. Having a special school court on fights and bullying

    5 vote(s)
    15.6%
  4. things are OK the way they are

    12 vote(s)
    37.5%
  1. luvweaver

    luvweaver Ad Jesum per Mariam

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    Hi. I decided to open a thread on bullying.

    Have you bullied someone? Why? Were you feeling opressed by your parents at that time?

    Have you been bullied? How have you felt about it?

    I'd really like to explore the phenomena of bullying. I was bullied when I was a kid, and it just sucks that school authorities do nothing against it, but oh yeah, when you decide to make yourself some justice, WHAM they threaten you with being expelled.

    Schools suck. I believe they promote a legalized bullying system where bullies are not punished for their crimes.

    I remember watching a documentary on Columbine and other cases of guys shooting someone - they had all problems in their family, and they were constantly bullied by someone. Don't you hate this?

    I'm not saying it's right to get even at someone with a gun, but I sincerely think that If someone would go to jail, before the poor guys who got crazy (they should get psychological help instead), it would be the bully (or who knows, perhaps they should get some help, too).

    What do you think?
     
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  2. Nephilim_X

    Nephilim_X New Member

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    I was bullied quite a bit as a child. How badly?

    I used to be an outgoing, positive, happy child. After moving to the school where I got bullied, it wasn't long before I was a depressed, introverted person.

    Said bullying continued until about the middle of high school, and it wasnt until a couple years after that I actually got confidence back.

    A weird sidenote: I wasn't the brightest kid while depressed, yet after getting confidence back... well, you've probably seen me in a serious debate somewhere along the line.


    Quite a few of my friends had a hard time with bullies too, and also my sister.

    Anyway, bullies should be dealt with. Harshly. I say if they beat up someone smaller than them, get a kid a few grades higher to slap em around some. Apparently this is how Korea handles it :D

    If its more verbal taunting and such, get a drill seargant and lock em in a room. 5 minutes later the bully will be in tears.

    Of course, we'll need a teacher with brains to figure out what is vindictive bullying and what isn't. (A lot of teachers say things like "Oh its just a joke", "Oh, suck it up" or "They do it because they love you". Probably because they're uncomfortable with the subject and want to dodge it.)


    Anyway, thats my $0.02
     
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  3. Sen

    Sen Ero-ninja

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    when i was 13 i went to a new school, and of course, being a skinny little guy is a great drawn for bullies, but i learned to stand up for myself, and soon nobody was brave enough to bully me:D

    what did I did? its simple, if somebody was messing with me,

    * i would pull their pants in front of the whole class and then run away(nobody could catch me)

    * destroy his homework

    * put sand in their food

    * find out something really embarasing to that person and show it to everyone.

    * extreme measure: there was this guy who kept pickin' on me, so, as i was searching in his backpack for something to destroy, i found a porno tape and bang! got him expelled, hahaha, i laughed until my head came off....

    i could go on and on...after a while, they realized i wasnt worth the troble^^

    :D :D :D
     
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  4. Basher

    Basher Mad Writing Skillz

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    Let’s see here I was never bullied. And I was a runt until I hit high school. I never really picked on anyone until high school

    YES I was a bully :D

    I was mean to this one girl. She USED to be my friend it lasted till like the beginning of 10th grade. She was nasty. She had lice. She smelled bad. And she reeked of her period. I just couldn’t stand her anymore.

    This girl used to wear this purple outfit. It was a big purple sweatshirt and purple sweatpants. I gave her the nickname THE PLUM. *laughs* There was this one time my friends and I blew up a balloon (actually something else hehe) and put hygiene products in it. We left it on her door step. Oh my god that was so funny.

    One of her so called friends tried to stop our bullying and also a friend of mine. Well, she asked us why. And I told her that I couldn’t stand this girl and it was my duty. More of our friends overheard and they asked me to stop and I said no. They all dropped it after that. I was the leader so the people who were teasing her went along with me.

    The girl I bullied wasn’t too bad. I guess. She did start dating my ex boyfriend. Wait never mind she is bad. :D Oh yeah, I told my ex that I “felt” bad because he was dating a girl like her. It was as if he felt WE were on the same level. He ended up dumping her for a stupid reason. I found out later that he wanted to get back together with me that is why he dumped her. :D Too late I already liked someone. *laughs* My ex got so mad when I flirted with him. He couldn’t stay in the same room as us. My ex was such an idiot.

    I was mean in high school. After a while my bullying died down some. I think it was because one of my friends got bullied. I stood up for her. Her pain made me less of a bully. But that didn’t stop me from bullying her bully. :D

    BTW my parents divorced when I was 11. I lived with my mom until 9th grade then I moved in with my dad. My dad is awesome. I was so over the divorce and the new house by the time I started bullying. So none of that crap saying that family situations are the reason why I bulled. I did it for fun :D

    I think there shouldn’t be any NEW laws about bullying. It’s a part of life. Maybe a mean one put still a part of life. I couldn’t tell you ways to get out of being bullied. But you can find out on your own. :p

    Only two people could bully me that was my older sisters but they never really did.
     
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  5. D3vil's Anjil

    D3vil's Anjil New Member

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    I haven't really been bullied much in my life...sometimes I get picked on by guys at my school....but when I threaten them...they act like they are scared of me or something:rolleyes: sometimes it makes me angry...but sometimes it doesn't bother me much. As for the voting, im not sure what i would vote for...because people around here don't exactly get bullied much...and if they do they usually get in trouble for it
     
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  6. Phalanx

    Phalanx Long Live M2A!

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    I used to get picked on all the way till the end of eight grade. During the following summer, I looked at the way I was, why I was not liked and did everything almost oppositly when my first day of high school begain. Needless to say, it worked like a charm and I made a lot of good friends. So, bullying kind of had a positive future effect, as awful as it was at the time. Sure, getting picked on is horrible, but I would rather see things stay the way they are. Why you ask? For me at least, it changed the way I am (for the better) and also forced me to toughen up and be forceful when someone starts some Bull cr*p up.

    On more of a sinister note, the guy who picked on me the most (EVER!) got shot to death a few weeks ago. You can call me cold, evil, whatever you want, but I felt no sympathy (in my mind, I was doing the fist pump :D ). That rat bast*rd deserved it, now that's justice. Good thing I didn't run into him before then or else I woulda done it. Anyways, that just goes to show you, you get whats coming to you. So don't aspire to be a bully yourself.

    You don't know how much of a good idea that really is. But it's even sweeter to be able to do that to them on your own.
     
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  7. ~ Zack ~

    ~ Zack ~ Guest

    My story is much like Nephilim's. My first few years of school were nice, happy go-lucky, though around when I hit the fourth, fifth grade my world came crashing down and people started to not like me, because really all the schools I went to were more sport-dependant schools and so while kids were getting into basketball, soccer, baseball and the likes, I was more into reading, writing, drawing and so on. And it continued that way until this day. I have some friends now in school, people who are really kinda just like me, though I'm still picked on and mocked a lot for a myriad of things. Though I'm also guilty of bullying people, usually the snot-nosed, self-centered jock-types or the perfectionist, elitist kids who compete with each other to see how high they can score on their SATs and probably go home crying when they get a 98% on a test as opposed to a hundred percent. Though I've seen the latter occur, and honestly, it was kind of funny, though I may be sadistic in some sense, heh. But yeah, those people bother me so I talk **** to them... the jocks kick my *** though and the others insult me from afar and make Roget spin in his grave. Or gyrate in his tomb.
     
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  8. Dark_Dreams

    Dark_Dreams New Member

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    i've never been bullied physically. I've always been bullied verbally, especially in 4th grade when i had an obsession with snakes( I'm a girl), so all i've ever had to do was tell them off in ways that most adults would not approve of(cursing, yelling, taking off my shoe and running after them as they flee in terror).But I still believe limited action against bullies by the student is justified.
     
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  9. Shadowstalker

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    i was really quiet and shy from like, k through 3rd grade and i was picked on a lot durring that time period. i personally hated it...so many people would pick on me and poke at me to the point whear i was about 3 inches away from not going to school again. i was always late cause i didnt want to go, i would miss feild trip things, and i wasnt really up to boot to do things. till around 4th grade, i met this girl and she was very out-going(we were wearing the exact same overalls:sweat2: ) and we became very best friends and she taught me how to be out-going and "cool" i guess you could say and i wasnt picked on much anymore cause people didnt see me as the same person. although our friendship is going down the drain, and i am becoming my old quiet shy self again to the point where i cant talk to the same people anymore. so know i have been getting picked on a lot more...i cant wait to go back to school:rolleyes:
    but i think it should just be the same how it is now...
     
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  10. Lethal Angel

    Lethal Angel New Member

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    I never really got bullied cuz i would always kick the crap outa the person that tried to bully me, but i did do some bullying myself. There was this kid in my 5th class who was really dumb, you know the kind that act more thier shoe size than thier age, and i used to pick on him alot. When he told the teachers i would smile and act all innocent ( because i never got in trouble at school, they would never think i would do anything bad) and they would yell at him and say "Brittany wouldn't do a thing like that" and tell him to stop annoying them. I never denied the fact that i did anything nor did i actually say i did it, i just acted like i didn't do it.:D
    I didn't do it for fun or because of family problems, i did it becuase he was annoying and i felt he deserved it.
    I don't think anything should be changed about the bully system in schools because you can't do anything like lock somebody up in a room with a drill seargant in the real world when somebody bullys you. I think the way things are gets you better prepared and i guess makes you stronger so you can learn to stand up for yourself. I, like Phalanx, think bullying can make you a better person just as long as it doesn't go too far.
     
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  11. Ryokos_hellyen

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    my story is kinda similar but not much im more into writing and reading and computers than i am in sports people thought they could bully me cause i seemed like a quiet lil thing that couldn't hurt them if i tryed they soon found out differently. i used to catch them after school (well me and mah friends whitch they also bullied to) and beat the crud out of them every day until they left us alone but yeah we made sure they never forgot that we were there waiting for them to start pushing on us again but they never did sooner or later we got in fights for them beating up other kids but most of the time it was 2 against three we would have 2 and they would have 3 those fights ended well though they stoped bullieing the kids at our school some of the bullies even went to another school i guess there perents didn't like there boys getting beat up buy lil girls :D:D:D
     
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  12. Yossarian

    Yossarian Yossarian Lives!

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    poor simple minded sister of mine i just used to love those days when you'd come home with a black eye and a slipt lip and mom used to get mad and first talking in english then switch over to hawaiian oh man thoes were the days


    i've only had a problem with bullies once but i didn't have that bullie for very long we got in a fist fight and she stoped picking on me and my friends if i didn't hate her so much i would have almost felt sorry for her:(
     
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  13. Nakoruru

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    I was never pushed around by some other punk *** kids. I was usually the one doing the bullying. I stoped though. Even though I was a quiet person, people used to steal my money, take my food, and push me around. They though since I was quiet, I woulsn't do anything or tell anyone. Too bad for them, one day during lunch, I was in 3rd grade also, I shoved their faces into that day's lunch(pizza) and poured milk all over their heads, then in the bathroom where they were cleaning off, I pushed one of the kids into a toilet, and the others ran, I got in trouble, but no one else underrated me after that. So it goes to show, you have to stand up so you won't get bullied.
     
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  14. Omnidragon

    Omnidragon New Member

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    There will always be bullies. In schools, in the wider social world. Nothing should be done about them because bullies at school provide people with the opportunity to experience something that is, compared to the standards of adulthood bullying, much softer! If kids can't even handle bullies at school, how are they going to handle bullies in the real world? Look at Saddam Hussein!! He can't handle the Bully Bush and the consequences of that is total demise. I could lay my friend's bottom dollar that Saddam was always bullied at school! WEAKLING!!
     
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  15. Omnidragon

    Omnidragon New Member

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    And also, I'd like to comment on 'scholars being bullied'. Are you talking about little 11-12 yr old kids? By the time you reach university or the last 2 or 3 final years of high school, there is a mutual respect between scholars and athletes. Why? Because getting a '98% instead of 100%' is very serious and could jeapordise your chances of entering 'law instead of commerce'. And let's not complicate things by even hinting that THERE ARE composites of both qualities.

    And even if you were talking about 11-12 yr old kids, scoring 2% less could jeapordise your chances of entering a good high school, which, in countries like Singapore, Hong Kong and Japan (which is worth mentioning because manga and anime originate from Japan and distribute to places like HK and SG, even CHINA [to the surprise of "stuck-up" westerners, not not "you guys"] much more readily than other Pacific regions, American and European countries) is very important because it pretty much paves the path for the university which you will enter.
     
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  16. Dredz

    Dredz Clown With A Frown

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    I don't see how this is a debate.
     
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  17. DistantSamurai

    DistantSamurai New Member

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    i think thigns are well now. My school doens't have a problem very much about bullying cause everyone is generally very nice and down to earth. We know better then to pick on someone and i usually stand up for people i don't even know sometimes and i have seen others do it too. I think if we made rules, not laws lol its only school, to forbid it it auther wouldn't help or make it worse. I think its all good now. You can always transferr school.s if you don't feel safe at a school then you shouldn't be there in teh first place^_^
     
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  18. SwordfishII

    SwordfishII New Member

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    I was never seriously bullied persay(<-----<<fancy word)but i am really cool or at least thats what i think but there is always these losers nerds that think they are better than me and they kick my books spit in my super sweet black label hoodie and kick me while im trying to nap in study,so i found a way to deal with this now bully magnets pay attention to what i says when someone does something down right mean to you when they turn around to walk away (after mean thing has been commited) say "hey _____ i think you dropped something"BAM punch them right in the nose(it hurts) and say oops i didnt know your face was there repeat several time till blood starts to come out.If needed do this on a regular bases until said bullying stops.
     
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  19. Nephilim_X

    Nephilim_X New Member

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    Once again ladies and gentlemen: Violence, the universal solution.
     
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  20. SwordfishII

    SwordfishII New Member

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    are you making fun of my solution? hey Nephilim_X you dropped something!::BAM punches Nephilim_X in the face repetedly::
     
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