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  1. max1

    max1 New Member

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    pues tienes razon jedimdo ,como esque hablas tan bien el castellano me has dejado impresionado ,me encanta saber k aki hay gente k habla en español
    bueno ,adios
     
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  2. Jedimdo

    Jedimdo New Member

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    Well, i'm a native speaker. You may guess my home country in my profile: Colombia. I know Spanish, English, and I'm learning Japanese right now.

    The third most spoken language in the wolrd is still unrevealed.
    C'mon. Try a google search, it should be somewhere in the web.
     
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  3. max1

    max1 New Member

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    me has dejado todavia mas impresionado,yo hablo el ruso,castellano,catalan,turco y unpoko de ingles solo me falta japones el k mas deseo aprender,escribeme algunas expresiones en japones si no te importa ,bueno adios.
     
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  4. Jedimdo

    Jedimdo New Member

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    Más impresionado estoy yo (aunque un poco dificil de creer, me entenderas).
    En cuanto al japones: watashihanihongobenkyoushimasu (Yo estudio japones).
    Hay un thread Let's speak japanese si quieres ver mas japones.
     
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  5. max1

    max1 New Member

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    no tepreocupes te comprendo,lokpasa eske estuve viviendo en varios países diferentes y al final estoy akien españa y bueno asiaprendi losidiomask se ,lrusoyamesabia porke soy de alli en cuanto aturcoestuve alli durante dos años,el castellano y el catalan aprendiaki en españa bueno eso estodo ,adios
     
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  6. Jedimdo

    Jedimdo New Member

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    Well, no one even want to guess :mad:
    This is the TOP THREE most spoken languages in the world!
    1. Mandarin Chinese 1.200 million
    2. English 690 million
    3. Hindi! 670 million (Hindi is the main India's official language. There are 18 official languages!)

    And Spanish is the fourth. :)
     
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  7. Stardust Phox

    Stardust Phox Such a Taurean I am!

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    Ditto to that. My home country is Puerto Rico. (*supresses patriotic impulses*) I'm also learning Japanese. I think speaking Spanish helps pronunciation-wise.

    Spanish is pretty hard to learn, I think. I mean, verbs alone are enough to boggle the mind (heaven knows I don't know them all; I use them, but I don't know them... ^^). But seriously, it's a great language to learn. It's a lot of fun. The words, they just roll of your tongue. ^^;; When I'm feeling lazy I speak Spanish. It's just fun. ^^
     
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  8. Jedimdo

    Jedimdo New Member

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    Japanese's sounds are more similar to spanish ones than english. That makes learning japanese more easy if you already have experience with languages as spanish.

    I forgot to post how many people speak spanish:
    4. 425 million speakers! most of them spreaded in Latin America.

    Tu eres Gatafairy verdad? Tu escribiste 'TerraII weakest link'

    'Useful' vocabulary:
    Cool: Chevere, bacano (Colombianism)
    Nah(No): Nombe
    ...
     
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  9. Reisti Skalchaste

    Reisti Skalchaste New Member

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    I agree. Not about the Puerto Rico bit :D, but about learning Japanese. Knowing Spanish has made it easier to pick up Japanese, even with no prior or current instruction.

    For example, I find it easier to translate the various forms of I, you, us, etc. into Spanish than to English.

    As for pronunciation, I've never had a problem. I can somehow prounonce any language well if I've only heard it first.
     
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  10. kapitanbar

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    And not all the spanish is the same!

    The country with the best spanish spoken language is: Mexico.

    Each country has its own words for the same thing. and their slangs. In my country (argentina) it is called "lunfardo".

    Mexicans has a slang full of "ch".

    Not all southamerica speask like in mexico!

    Argentinians speak with an italian accent, perhaps because there was a lot of italian inmigration years ago.

    Also in spain, the language known in north america as "spanish" is actually the "castellano". Three other languages are spoken, Galego (in Galicia, the north west tip of that country), Catalá (in Catalonia, capital Barcelona, the southeast part near France) and Euskerra (the Basque country, at the north-east part).

    And also in south america, at least three native languages are still widely spoken: Guarani (Paraguay/Argentina/Brasil), Quechua or Quichua (Peru, Bolivia, Argentina) and Aymara (Bolivia).
     
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  11. Jedimdo

    Jedimdo New Member

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    I've heard something else kaptainbar. The country with the best spanish is Colombia. The colombian spanish is the less affected by accent. El español colombiano es muy conservador. Hay bastantes dialectos no cultos en el país, es cierto. Pero el colombiano estándar es como el que ves en television, por ejemplo, la nueva presentadora de noticias de 'CNN en español', Claudia Palacios.
    In argentina people speak in language very similar to spanish :D (ok, just joking, they destroy the language). Peru, Bolivia and Ecuador's spanish has many influence from local languages. And mexican spanish has too much accent and many words exchanged.
     
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  12. kapitanbar

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    We, the argentine people, speak spanish quite bad ;). The only place where it's spoken with a lot of it's own richness is in one province, Santiago del Estero.

    I forgot it, and it's right, Colombia speaks what it's known as "neutral spanish"; the language spoken in almost all translated series, documentals, soap operas and such things.
     
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  13. Reisti Skalchaste

    Reisti Skalchaste New Member

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    Just like how English spoken by people from England is quite bad. They don't so much speak the language as chew it up and spit it out. :D

    Us Canadians, though, speak English perfectly. And just so you know, we don't all speak with that northern accent and say "eh" all the time.




    But, we're getting off topic. This thread is about Learning Spanish, not arguing over who speaks the best English.

    So, here's a table showing Verb conjugations in present tense, although, accents are excluded due to difficulty typing them, and, there are exceptions to this:

    -ar ending verbs(using verb "hablar" as an example)

    Yo (I) - hablo
    Tu (You, Informal) - hablas
    El, Ella, Usted (He, She, It, You Formal) - habla

    Nosotros (We, Us) - hablamos
    Vosotros (You (group, informal)) - hablais
    Ellos, Ellas, Ustedes (He, She, It, You Formal, Plural) - hablan

    -er ending verbs ("comer" as example)

    Yo - como
    Tu - comes
    El, Ella, Usted - come

    Nosotros - comemos
    Vosotros - comeis
    Ellos, Ellas, Ustedes - comen

    and, -ir ending verbs ("vivir")

    Yo - vivo
    Tu - vives
    El, Ella, Ud(abb. for Usted) - vive

    Nosotros - vivimos
    Vosotros - vivis
    El, Ella, Uds (ustedes) - viven

    Keep in mind that Spanish is pronounced differently than English, so some words sound weird. Ie. "come," meaning "he eats, she eats, or you eat" is pronounced "co-meh"

    Coming next, Numbers! (Wow, this is a completely different order than I learned, but oh well.
     
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  14. Roffey

    Roffey I'm As Free As A Bird Now

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    Shouldn't it be "We Canadians"? (Because "we" is part of the subject, and therefore, must be in the nominative case, which "us" isn't.) And It's my understanding that English people (that is, "proper" not "cockney") speak the best English; best grammar, sentence structure, etc.
     
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  15. Roffey

    Roffey I'm As Free As A Bird Now

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    *Vosotros is used only in Spain*

    Numbers: 0-30

    cero
    uno
    dos
    tres
    cuatro
    cinco
    seis
    siete
    ocho
    nueve
    diez
    once
    doce
    trece
    quatorce
    quince
    dieciseis
    diecisiete
    dieciocho
    diecinueve
    veinte
    veintiuno
    veintidos
    veintitres
    veinticuatro
    veinticinco
    veintiseis
    veintisiete
    veintiocho
    veintinueve
    treinta

    hmm, accents in there somewhere. I take latin now, so I am a tidbit rusty. Edit them in in a bit.
     
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  16. Reisti Skalchaste

    Reisti Skalchaste New Member

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    Umm, thanks. I was going to do it myself, but... For higher numbers, it's pretty simple. Just add the higher number to the beginning.

    Ie. 1234 is "un mil, docientos, treinta y nueve"

    So,

    100 - cien, ciento (for counting)
    200 - docientos
    300 - trecientos
    400 - quatrocientos
    500 - cincocientos
    600 - secientos
    700 - setecientos
    800 - ochocientos
    900 - nuevocientos
    1000 - un mil
    2000 - dos mil
    10000 - diez mil
    100000 - ciento mil
    1.000.000 - un millon (pronounced "mi-yon")

    And I suppose someone should do the alphabet, to, so there's less confusion. Letters should be followed by pronunciation in Spanish, as well as how to say them in the language.

    Here's a simple way to remember vowels.

    "Ah, Ay, Ee, Oh, Ooh, El burro sabe mas que tu."

    Meaning: A, E, I, O, U, The donkey knows more than you." :D
     
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  17. kapitanbar

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    In argentina the "tu" form is scarcely used, instead of it we use:

    Usted habla (like "you speak")
    Vos hablás (with an accent on the second "a", like "thou speakst"). This one is second person familiar, very much like in german "Du sprichst". This way of talking might sound rude to some other latinoamerican people, then when we speak for example with someone from venezuela, mexico, colombia or elsewhere we use also the "tu" form.

    The form Vosotros (second person plural) is only used in Spain. Here it's used "ustedes" no matter familiar or not.
     
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  18. Sebastien

    Sebastien Guest

    There is no defined teacher in this thread. Everybody can help out if they wish to do so.

    This thread's been really informative so far, keep up the good work!
     
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  19. kapitanbar

    kapitanbar Member

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    Ie. 1234 is "un mil, docientos, treinta y nueve"

    >>In fact, the first thousand is spelled without the "un", something like "mil doscientos, treinta y nueve"

    So,

    100 - cien, ciento (for counting)
    200 - docientos >>Doscientos!
    300 - trecientos >>Trescientos!
    400 - quatrocientos >>cuatrocientos!
    500 - cincocientos >>quinientos!
    600 - secientos >>seiscientos!
    700 - setecientos
    800 - ochocientos
    900 - nuevocientos >>novecientos
    1000 - un mil >>mil
    2000 - dos mil (it's written all together)
    10000 - diez mil
    100000 - ciento mil >>cienmil
    1.000.000 - un millon (pronounced "mi-yon")



    and 1.000.000.000 are "mil millones", not "un millardo" or "un billon"

    un billon is 1.000.000.000.000
     
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  20. Reisti Skalchaste

    Reisti Skalchaste New Member

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    Oh. Well, you'll forgive me for my mistakes, seeing as I haven't studied it in some time. I simply forgot to mention regional locations, so thanks for getting that.

    Umm, my knowledge is beginning to fade now, so after this post, I'll leave the teaching to you guys for a while, while I dig up my old notes.

    I guess I'll do colors now. Please correct me if there are any errors. Just the basics right now.

    Red - rojo
    Orange - naranja
    Yellow - amarillo
    Green - verde
    Blue - azul
    Purple - Uhh, there was some disagreement about this word. I just tried to avoid using it. I've heard it could be either "purpureo" or "morado." If anyone can clear this up, it would be great.

    Por ejemplo: "Las limas esta verde," or, "The limes are green."
    "los pájaros vuelan en el cielo azul," meaning "The birds fly in the blue sky."

    I'll be back when I find my Spanish/English Dictionary and my notes from when I studied it.
     
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