A Few Suggestions

Discussion in 'Feedback' started by Ailuro, Oct 29, 2006.

  1. Ailuro

    Ailuro New Member

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    I apologize if I appear presumptuous creating a topic like this after only one day of being a member, but I feel there are some things that need to be addressed.

    1. There are a few inconsistencies that I've seen. There is a post saying that torrent links are "strictly forbidden", but found a section stating that unlicensed fansubs are allowed. This isn't too big, but I would appreciate a final, correct answer. :)

    2. When I joined, I discovered that I couldn't have my own custom avatar. I was a bit distraught over this until I was told that I have to be a power member. I thought, "Hey, why not? It's a good way to get new people posting." But when I read the requirements, they really turned me off to staying here. I'm not implying the abolishment of the requirements, but to make them... more lenient. 100 days and 250 posts are, in my opinion, too much. For a simple custom image, such a posting requirement is over the top.

    Thank you for reading. I'd greatly appreciate it if you consider the aforementioned suggestions. :D
     
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  2. Fushigi Rockna

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    Thanks alot Aily. I'm really glad you decided to join and give your suggestions for the board. =)

    For the record, I asked Aily to join here, along with a couple other members from fullmetal-alchemist.com. I told them to give me any suggestions on how they think we can improve, because I think it's important that we have an outsider's opinion on the board situation. Since we have such a hard time attracting new members and making them stay, I think such an opinion is very helpful.


    Once again, thanks Aily for posting the suggestions rather than leaving or something. ^^
     
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  3. Kain

    Kain Plaything of Doom

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    Althiugh i think that there can be a little confusion about Torrent links, i think that as long as its an un-licensed anime, the mods and admins don't really have that much trouble with them. However if the link is to an anime that is licenced, then that can get the board into some legal trouble.

    With Power-Users, its not really that hard being here for 100 days and making 250 posts, thats to really a reward for people who keep coming back. If you're turned off by the requrements and don't feel like returning to the site then thats pretty much the reason that they were put in place. Personally i find that the hardest part of becoming a power user is getting the nessicary amount of karma. Thats one point that kinda put me off at first.
     
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  4. Fudge_Monkeys

    Fudge_Monkeys www.boards.jp

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    ahh... Im sure you can find a avater you will like. but karma is really hard to get i try and pass it out whenever i can
     
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  5. Ailuro

    Ailuro New Member

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    As I'm not familiar with karma and how it's used here, I wasn't aware of the difficulty of gaining it.

    And, yes. Fushi (aka FR) is the special friend I enjoy talking to (because she's cute). She asked me to state what I thought would improve the boards and help prevent it from shriveling up and dying. :D
     
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  6. Kain

    Kain Plaything of Doom

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    Karma is something you can give to people when you think that they've made a good post. Eventually it will add up and you'll have the 50 points you need to become a power user. Once this is done, the rest of the requirements are a peice of cake.

    You can also give people bad karma if you think that they've made a really bad post. This will take away points from your total.

    To give karma, click on the weighing scales icon that appears on the bottom of every post. However any karma that a newbie gives won't count unless thet've made something like 10 posts, this is just a way to stop newbies going spastic with the system. You also have to give another something like 15 different people karma before you can give the same person karma again, this is to stop people bulking up each others karma and to spread it around a little with others.

    This is a useful thread for giving pointers on karma:
    http://www.boards.jp/forums/showthread.php?t=11154

    I think theres another thread that will explain the system somewhere, i'll post it if i can find it.
     
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  7. Seishin

    Seishin Guest

    Two things:

    1-Welcome to the site you friend of a sexy friend! :p

    2-Regarding the issue, I think it's better getting something when you work at it. Though 250 does seem kinda sever, it goes by fast, belive me ;)

    -Seishin
     
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  8. Fushigi Rockna

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    Suck up. =P

    Unless of course there's no new, active threads for anyone to really post in anymore.
    It's not as easy as it once was. =(
     
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  9. Ailuro

    Ailuro New Member

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    Why, yes. I'd have to agree with that statement.
    It was hard enough getting the amount of posts I do now without resorting to spamming. >_>
     
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  10. asunder

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    3 months of posting AND karma? that already is overkill. It's only a custom avatar. Do you really expect to fool anyone into thinking that it's necessary for them to be active on these boards in order to get a custom avatar? It actually makes posting on the boards seem like a chore and encourages SPAM. The typical reason people return to various internet forums and become regulars is that these forums gives them a comfortable environment in which to express themselves rather than limit themselves with strict rules which exist for no sound reason.

    oh and on a seperate note, I have a torrent for the anime Mushi-shi which is not licensed despite what is listed on animesuki.com.
     
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  11. Fudge_Monkeys

    Fudge_Monkeys www.boards.jp

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    Look Custom Avatars arnt Everything Its not like your going to die in any way or your real life will fall apart 250 may be much but 3/4s of the users did it (That includes Old Users)

    Older Members (which is alot) all reached all the requirments and had no complications They left for diffrent reasons

    And these forums have been up since 2001? I dont think there has been alot of spam. We do have good debates which you can keep arguing until your point is proven or destroyed. I think we also have some spam threads that we make intetionally like that 5 word storys thread.

    Edit:Just so you know im not trying to be mean just showing a point
     
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  12. Popogeejo

    Popogeejo New Member

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    No offence but there seems to be a lack of any posts in general...
    Why is there such a high limit anyway?
     
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  13. Basher

    Basher Mad Writing Skillz

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    I believe Kain said it best.

    As far as the rule about it goes if the Manga/Anime is licensed it is forbidden. For ones that are not licensed it is okay.

    There is a Fansub forum that uses strictly Animesuki just for the fact that all others allow licensed anime. Animesuki at least it tries to not allow licensed anime torrents spread.

    I know the Mods were in discussion over changing the Power User status and it is appears to be about time to finish it.

    At the time Power User was made it was needed. I know quite a few people enjoyed obtaining it.
     
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  14. Chane

    Chane Audience of One

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    I believe Gregory House said it best.

    "You.. idiot."

    I kid, though. I kid. Seriously. Just a joke.

    Here, have some karma.

    Want to express yourself? Get a sig. Until then, suck it up.
     
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  15. asunder

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    Seems reasonable when it was started, but maybe there should be some change with respect to the present state of the forums? We're not trying to overthrow some corrupt regime, just trying to point out areas to make the forum a more enjoyable experience for everyone.


    You didn't seem to address my particular concern about the fansub?

    I have a torrent for anime that I again stress is not licensed using a tracker which hosts unlicensed anime (a.scarywater). Am I allowed to post it?
     
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  16. BakaMattSu

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    Thank you for the constructive feedback. We are always open to hearing what users have to say, whether they are a long time user or a new face. I don't think you seem presumptuous in any way, but it is still nice to see you prefacing your post in the event that it were misinterpreted that way.

    The official board policy is no links to copyrighted material, including those distributed via downloadable torrents. The one area where this rule is "lifted" at the moment is the Fansubs board, where torrents following stringent rules are allowed as per wertitis' sticky in that forum. This is the only board where that is allowed, and a post elsewhere will be removed. The moderators of the Fansubs forum take extra responsibility to enforce the rule exception under their umbrella and to keep links in order when licensing takes place. As of this post, only animesuki links are accepted.

    As for the Power User, it was intended to be something for members to work towards, rewarding those who made a lasting and positive community contribution. It wasn't meant to be too easily obtainable, or it wouldn't serve its purpose. On the flip side, it wasn't meant to be completely out of reach, either. A Power User is someone with a status symbol or sorts - someone with a custom avatar and title is someone who has been around long enough to make a name for themselves and to garner respect.

    However, I do agree that when it was implemented there was more activity in general on the boards. Let me throw the ball back in your court - What numbers would you think fair, since the current ones are not to your liking?

    Perhaps if it were solely graded on post count. If you discount the time requirement and karma, then I'd agree. But spamming up 250 posts will not help you attain karma in any hurry - the negative points you're liable to gain would work against you.

    The offsite linking restrictions are in place for obvious legal reasons. That seems sound to me.

    The rewarding of members with perks for their community contribution is not a rule, it is a pat on the back for those who attain it. Nobody is forcing you to shoot for it. It can be attained over time without pushing and stressing for it. Until that time comes, we have a suitable bank of existing avatars at your disposal - and you can always tailor your sig to express yourself.

    At present, no. Only animesuki links are accepted, and only in the Fansubs forum. According to the sticky, though, you can petition to add your desired site.
     
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  17. Ailuro

    Ailuro New Member

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    First of all, thank you for taking the time to look over and actually consider the suggestions I gave. I really appreciate it.

    Well, that would be a bit difficult to decide as I don't know what the level of activity was when power users was first implemented. So I'll have to ask a few more questions to arrive at an answer. What was the level of activity when Power Users was first created compared to what it is now? 1/2? 1/3?
    Perhaps by using a system that relates to the activity ratio, a more updated version of the requirements can be created.
     
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  18. BakaMattSu

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    From recent trends, I'd say the boards are about a third as active as when the rule was instated.

    Reducing the present figures to one-third, the adjusted values would be (with liberal rounding):
    40 days of membership
    85 posts
    15 positive reputation points

    That seems too low to me, even in the deflated environment that exists today.

    Reducing to two thirds seems fair:
    60 days of membership
    150 posts
    30 positive reputation points

    How do those figures sit with you?
     
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  19. Fushigi Rockna

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    If I could add a personal opinion really quick, I think repuatation points should be low no matter what, since that's the most difficult to acquire. I think others will agree with that. >.>;;

    *flies away and waits for Aily's post*
     
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  20. BakaMattSu

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    Keep in mind that newly registered users begin with 10 points, and that long-standing members have a much larger influence than newly joined members. Catching the right people's attention with a good thread can go a longer way than you would expect.

    • A new member such as Popogeejo currently has no weighting, and karma received from that user would net you 0 points shift, positive or negative
    • -Sasuke- is worth 2
    • Basher hits for 12 points at present
    • A whack of karma reputation from BMS currently shifts you by 22 points.

    Imagine that - If I see one post that I find worthy of reputation, you're already well on the way to Power User. And chances are that if I find it good material, others will, too.

    For some idea where the weighting comes from, check out the Karma and Reputation Explained thread.

    To further show that karma reputation isn't the beast many make it out to be - Ailuro gained 45 points of reputation in his first 3 days on the board. He is presently sitting at 58, a figure already beyond the Power User requirement.
     
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