Naruto Naruto powers? *spoilers latest chapters*

Complete spoilers. Latest chapters.

Anybody besides me feel as if his powers are a little to much?

I don't think he trained to be a sanin that long...but maybe the world works differentially there.

 

[Spoilers]Not bad for someone who's still a Gennin. He never passed the Chunin exam. I don't think that his sage powers will help him too much at the moment. The five min cap is really screwing him. A few of my buds and I are thinking that he's going to end up working with 8 tails. If Naruto is going to beat Madara he's going to need more power. The Kyuubi looks like a good source if he can tame it. Thing is Madara can tame the Kyuubi, so who knows. It's all a toss up.

How cool was it they blew up Konoha? Didn't see that coming.

NAGASAKI NO JUTSU [/Spoilers]

~W

Edit: Stupid spoilers bracket does not want to work...

 

I'm of the idea that the Naruto series has been ridiculous for many, many months and Naruto's sudden boost in strength is no different. I guess I should expect as much from a Shounen manga - Bleach is sort of the same way right now, but not as bad. At least DGM was never like this - the only decent Shounen manga out there anymore. Good thing it's coming back in April.

Anyway, the way Naruto has progressed is the reason I should just stick to seinen manga.

 

Whats "seinen manga"?

I had only heard of Shounen (boring) and Shojo (freaking awesome).

Of what is it that you speak?

 

Seinen is more "adult-oriented" manga. More mature story lines, artwork, and subject matter. Basically... shounen and shoujo manga are geared toward boys and girls, respectively, in their teens... seinen is geared towards men in their twenties and thirties. Some examples of seinen manga are Hellsing, Berserk, Bastard!!, Tenjou Tenge (for some reason), Mononoke (not to be confused with Princess Mononoke - there's no relation at all), FLCL, Trigun (Maximum), and my all-time favorite manga (even though it's by Koreans, it was released in Japan, making it a manga, not a manwha) - Shin Angyo Onshi. Another really good seinen is DOGS: Bullets & Carnage.

 

Am I the only one not bothered by his rapid increase to power? Look at who he's stacked against. He needs some big, bad mojo before he gets wrecked like Konoha.

Trigun Maximum still felt like a shounen. Hellsing, Berserk and Bastard were well known for having more blood than the average series, but the story lines were about par. The art style doesn't mean much to me and superficial things like blood and gore have always been a 'meh' experience. What I'm looking for is "Can the storyline still surprise me" and "How much emotional attachment do I have with the Characters". If I'm emotionally detached then, obviously I don't really care when one or two die and the story loses its ability to surprise me. A surprise anime series call Higurashi No Naku Koro Ni looks like a supercute shoujo snorefest, but turned out having a thrilling an deep storyline. It was one of the few series where the utter brutality gave the story, as a whole, more shape and definition. Conversely Mushishi was tame and a polar opposite to Hellsing, Trigun, Higurashi, Berserk, ect. It contained little to no action yet drove a creepy and compelling storyline. As long as shows like Naruto keep surprising me, making me laugh and give credence to good conversation I'll continue to enjoy them.

...Imeanholyshittheykilledjirayaandblewupkonohawherethehellaretheygoingtogofromherekindamakesyoualittlebitcuriouswhatsgoingtohappennext?

~W

 

Good point wert.

To me it seems rushed. I am used to chapters and chapters of him trying hard and failing then something happens gets distracted then succeeds.

I think it was chapter 235 when Naruto returns to the village. Now its like less than 450 and his power had like 10x or more. BUT it was really just recently. I would believe over the near 3 year skip but not for how long it has been going on. He gets back to the village. Takes out a fake Itachi. Beats on another member of the Akatsuki. Goes and gets a greater power. Kills one (well nearly but pretty much did). Then his master dies and has this awesome senin power. He punches out one of his enemies which ALL in the village had trouble with.

He has limitations on his power. BUT he completed the shikan rasengan. He has only 2 but considering the damage it seems fair. And he found a way around that 5 minute rule. So he has 15 minutes now?

I was like when konoha got blown up. But my train of thought was more like crap it will end soon. Like now there is a larger climax.

I told Matt that maybe it should all of a sudden end. Wouldn't that suck? So going to do that....opps hehe

But the next chapters will be great.

 

It is rushed because Kishimoto made the mistake of making his villains too over-the-top to begin with. There really is no real excuse for it. He got lucky against Kakuzu - he even had to be saved by Yamato and Kakashi. It just truly is ridiculous.

And Jiraiya's death/destruction of Konoha was of no surprise to me, so I guess that's why I see Naruto as stale. Nothing in Naruto has surprised me. Ever. Annoyed? Frustrated? Yes.

 

Hey, it happens. There's plenty of other shows and manga to get caught up in. That's what we're here for.

Anyway, considering the the Hokage is so powerful herself, the series needs villians to give her a run for her money. Akatsuki pose a real threat to all the Kages and if Naruto is going to stand toe to toe with them he needs to ramp up past Kage strength, and remember, if he's going to fight Madara he's going to need alot more than a few Rasengans to do the job.

I think I realized why I'm not bothered by his sudden power boost- I sat through every last one of the goddamn filler episodes between Naruto and Shipuuden. I needed something exciting to happen, so when things move quickly in Naruto I simply think back to 2 years where nothing at all happened and count my blessings.

~W

 

That's your own fault for watching unsanctioned episodes, really.

And, as far as I'm unconcerned, Tsunade is not only one of the weakest - overall - Hokage, but she's also the most irresponsible and perhaps the most inane. She's made nothing but poor, hypocritical decisions and shown her immaturity and readiness to abandon her post - such as wanting to dive head-first into the Rain Village infiltration with Jiraiya. It had been three years at that point - one would think that she would've calmed down a little bit. But I guess you can't teach very, very old dogs new tricks.

 

Ya really kinda missed the point, my friend. Better to have a lot happen and chew the fat about rather than nothing happen at all.

Tsunade sent Jiraiya on a mission she knew he wouldn't come back from, that was why she wanted to go with him, because she knew that he would need her help. It just means that she's got people she cares about. You could look at Itachi the same way. He put his own feelings before the village's and spared his brother's life even though he was ordered to kill everyone, and that made him a hero (even if the village is totally ignorant to the fact). I think the author is trying to make a statement that people who put the village, as a whole, first before those they care about (the village on a more personal level) end up like the elders who have very little compassion or trust. It's macroscopic vs microscopic thinking? Ya know what I mean, man?

That's where all the drama gets generated. The Third and the Fourth Hokage both put the village before their own personal wants, needs and relationships with others, but that wasn't necessarily successful. By planting the Kyuubi into Naruto the fourth saved the village and dammed his own kid. Likewise the third's macroscopic view of the village destroyed the Uchiha clan and spawned one of the leaf's greatest enemies- Sasuke. It's this different approach that gives the series it's flavor, at least from Tsunade. Out of all the Hokages, she probably is the weakest (fighting-wise), but then again she's a medical Ninja, rather than a combat ninja. Her basic interaction with other ninjas as she grew and fought was more intimate and personal than the average nin. It's this different style of thinking that, indeed, is more reckless than the Third or the Fourth's, but with the changing times and the effective 'changing of the guards' so to speak (the kids growing up and protecting the village instead of their elders) that's leading to an evolution. Tsunade just happens to be at the forefront of that.

You have to remember she didn't want to be Hokage, but I don't know about her wanting to abandon her post. If that were the case she would not be fighting alongside the rest of the nins, or putting her life on the line for the village like she is doing. She's not a natural leader, she's a loner who lived a life away from other people and responsibility, so even after three years she's still learning the ropes. With that kind of previous lifestyle, it would take more than a few years to learn enough to become as wizened as, lets say, the Third.

~W

 

First of all - Tsunade did not send Jiraiya on a mission. She has no jurisdiction to. Jiraiya is not an official member of the Leaf Village anymore, he does things as he pleases. He CHOSE to go to the Rain Village, and Tsunade CHOSE to want to follow him - which is my point. And Hashirama and Tobirama both also put the village before themselves - especially Tobirama, who established the Chuunin exams to help prevent any unnecessary wars.

And if she didn't want to be Hokage, then she should have never accepted it in the first place. A less experienced Hokage is still better than a placeholder Hokage like her.

 

I feel rushed because I watch the series like it was a religion. Waiting for the next episode to come out EVERY week. But now I can wait for the episodes. In fact I watch a few in a row. But not the manga. I enjoyed some of the fillers. Because I didn't want the series to end.

To me it seems like the series will end. Besides Tsunade and everyone else does it seem like Naruto has gotten to powerful?

He took out Pain's men that Kakashi couldn't take out.

He got hit by Pain's man's attack and it was like nothing for him. Wasn't that the one who killed? or hurt Kakashi?

I can see the time difference when he went to learn the senin power.

Right now he is captured. He needs outside help to get out. The frogs are working on an illusion. Knowing Naruto he will find a way to get out without there help just because he does things unexpected.

I agree he had to get powerful to go toe to toe with Pain. But at what cost? The series was going great. Then Naruto became to powerful. At least I think so. He took out people were others have failed. He knocks off attacks as if they were nothing.

 

We're over 400 chapters in though. How long does it take for Naruto to get strong enough to stop being useless?

On a side note. Oh noes Hinata, and the 6 tails. There's a curve ball that caught everyone by surprise. Very nice.

~W

 

It's no longer a surprise since she lived.

Pussy Kishi is a pussy.

 

Maybe, but you still read it.

~W

 

Its to addicting not to though.

I am glad Hinta didn't die.

To bad Kakashi is dead. Well it has yet to be "said" but it should be true after all Naruto can't sense him.

Is Kakashi dead or not?

I hope not. But what the heck. He is dead.

 

He was penned in to be the next Hokage. Truthfully I'm doubtful if he's dead, but that determination has yet to be made.

~W

 

Technically, actually, I look at one paragraph summaries on what it's about two days before the chapter is scanned and posted on a site like OneManga then move on to something better - like D.Gray-Man.

 

And then he tells me. And I read it anyway.

I just hope it doesn't lose the underline meaning that's why I watch it and let my son. "No matter who you are try your best" and it could effect others or something like that life lesson.

Naruto meeting his pa. AWESOME.