Debate Democracy or dictatorship.

democracy or dictatorship.

which do you think is healthy for schools?

would you perfer a democracy...

or

would you prefer a dictatorship?

 

It is hard to say both have there good points and there bad points but i probably pick democracy. if you mean by the dictatorship in the old days then the people who don't have money could not send their kids to school with democracy the gov would beable to help the family to send the kids to school.

 

...Do you mean a national government, or as in how a school is run?

 

how the school is run.

 

Chigga-WHAT?!

Oh, whew. This is a new question. I've never really pondered this one. I suppose the answers will vary, each coming from two very different directions.

Those still in school will want a democracy because idealy in a democracy they could use thier collective voices to run things.

However those NOT in school anylonger may opt for a dictatorship, simply because that is the classical style and it's the way they went through school. They know it works and if it's not broken, why fix it?

I, for one, am a big fan of a Quasi-Dictatorship. The Principal and school director have the last say in things simply because they are the most expirienced. They know and understand how to run a school better than the students would simply because of thier time as a teacher/principal and thier college education.

However if they are Hitler-esq, or Stalin-esq, leaders then the students and thier parents should be able to vote them out and elect someone else. This kind of addition removes the relative 'job security' that they currently have and forces them to think and make thier decisions more pro-actively, with the students and thier welfare in mind.

There are plently of principals out there who are well loved by the students because of thier leadership qualities (and they're just nice guys.), in the same breath there are plenny out there who aren't so kosher. The students and thier parents should be able to decide what's best for them by removing the morons.

If anything, it'll get the bad ones to think twice before pulling the plug on Prom because of a few silly senior pranks.

:glazed: Wow... did I even answer the question?


~The inflatable wert

 

...Dictatorships, obviously. Teens are stupid.You go to school to learn from teachers, not push for legislature to have alcohol come from the water fountain. What, you think kids are going to be responsible and actually go for challenging work instead of fun? We have enough people barely qualified to flip my burger already, THANK YOU!

 

When i was in school it was run under a dictatorship, where the princible had the first last and only say in anything. Which probably was ok until there was something that you thought was kinda unfair.
The system did kinda work, mostly cause my particular school was full of under acheiving low life's who wouldn't be able to spell democracy if you wrote it on the board for them.
I think if there was a democratic systyem in the school it would be very limited to what the students could do, espesally since the schools here are different to those in the US or Canada, and probably like in the some schools that run a Class President type thing, it would just be a big popularity contest.
So i think that Dictatorship is really the only way to properly run a school, and if you think that the Headmaster is being TO mean, then you can always go to the school directers or something.

 

Meh, there's a difference between stupidity and ignorance, though I see what you are trying to say. Students and thier parents should at least have say in who is running the whole dictatorship. Remove the job security and the principals will start making more openminded desicions in order to keep thier job.

 

I'm not saying they're ignorant alone. I'm outright saying it: kids are stupid.

 

Ouch, burn.

Now I have to ask why you say that?

[insert canned phrase here]
The difference between stupidity and ignorance is that stupidity is willful, ignorance is not.

 

I honestly think thats the point Neph is tring to get across, kids would choose to be stupit, rather then learn.

 

yeah, im gonna have to agree with neph. the kids who dont want to learn still wouldnt, the only thing that would change is that the one who do would have to deal with stupid decisions. although "kids are stupid" is a bit off... calling half the population of this site a dumbass and not supporting that at all doesnt really work lol. plus of course the arrogance that it takes to say he's more intelligent than anyone under 20 years of age. he's still under 25 for god's sake.

 

Hrm

Leagally Students have to actually glean an education from the school system. I stand by my own opinion about Principal Elections because no one has been able to prove to me it's not a good idea. If you think of school like a job, of course the "employees" (students) will try to make it as easy and as chill as possible? Who wants to actually work? That's why the principal should be the head honcho and his word is law. However... [points back up at previous posts]

I have to ask anyway- What kinds of "Democracy" was NeoNoodle referring to? Democracy in terms of campus policy, democracy in terms of voting who does what in the school, democracy in terms of how business at the school is actually conducted? "How the school is run" is still a pretty broad term.

 

Example of Demo: My last school had a "court' we sent students up on trail and those that were selected as our "king and Queen and their knights" chose the punishment they saw fit. the principle almost always agreed. and the students loved how the court would make there choice. they saw it as fair and never complained about it. if they wanted to change our food they took it up with court. court checked it out with the students and if the report showed that most students perfered a change or the same they changed it or kept it the way it was. ect.

 

The Court sounds like another name for a student body election. Those are mostly popularity contests. As long as they are as pro-active as yours was I don't see any reason why schools shouldn't be "Democratic" in that sense.

 

it wasn't... we didn't get to completely choose them. the teachers got together and gave the principle two boys two girls. those four had to write down what they would do if they we choosen and it was put on our balets annoynomusly (sp)... they didn't want an idiot running court.