Recreation Dictatorship VS Democracy

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Dictatorship VS Democracy

  1. Dictatorship

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  2. Democracy

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  1. KaMeKaZi

    KaMeKaZi Insanity$%#

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    What do you think is Better... Cause im realy starting to hate Democracy


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  2. Bloodberry

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    i personally look forward to the day that a true democracy emerges...tho, prolly won't happen anytime soon...
     
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  3. DrunkLeprachaun

    DrunkLeprachaun Tetsu Oushi

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    At the moment, I don't believe there is any true free and democratic countries on the world. But although there could be one great dictator leader that could be very good for a country, once there's a dictatorship, it's hard for it to be stopped, so the next leader would as likely as not be a tyrant. So I go for democracy.
     
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  4. BakaMattSu

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    Democracy, if there were ever a pure form of it. But by that same token, any form of organization works in its purest form. Democracy, if it was truly "by the people for the people"...Dictatorship, if led under a true and just ruler...Communism, if done fairly... but Democracy seems to be holding strong for the time being...
     
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  5. KaMeKaZi

    KaMeKaZi Insanity$%#

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    What do you say to.. Prety much All of scociety and contryies were built on a dictatorship.. Excluding the USA cause im not sure if they were built on a dictorship of sorts of a new democratic rejime..

    Kame
     
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  6. BakaMattSu

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    I say that I've been taught that before....and pretty much in the same method you just presented above. :p
     
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  7. Bloodberry

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    the usa is more of a group discussion dictatorship of sorts...i mean, the ppl that made the goverment wern't chosen...lol they were just the ones that wanted it...
     
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  8. rei

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    uhm.. i suppose from a critical stand point democracy is actually working pritty well, in comparision to all of the other failures in government. but then again america cant ever get it right, its not as it should be.. instead of the peoples voice being the choice, decisions are oftened swayed in the hidden name of big business.. which is sickening.
    but everything works on paper.. communism is a beautiful utopian dream, an anarchist atonomist collective could servive and strive in complete personal freedom and peace.. and democracy could save the world from itself.. but there is a big divide and many big egos between the paper and the society that will be constructed in its name..
    so i didnt vote on this one. niether turns me on to the idea of being free and equal.

    *heart* rei

    [edit] i suppose if i was to vote for anything it would be dictatorship. SELF*DICTATORSHIP.
     
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  9. c0ke

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    I hate both dictatorship and democracy. I would go with communism, the utopian government. Of course because of the nature of human, it'll be impossible for it to be completely realized. Same thing for pure democracy, fat pigs at the parliments and capital hill will never give people the power.

    But between the two selection I would have to go with Democracy.
     
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  10. KaMeKaZi

    KaMeKaZi Insanity$%#

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    The Utopian Communism will never work because you have to start with someone in power, to set up the goverment and get the contry working ther way it should then give the power to the ppl.. but once in power the nature of the beast is to keep that power..

    democracy yeah its great of paper. But the problem in the power is giving to to many ppl thus all you have are idiots arguing about what should be done. Unless its benifits themselves.. Maybe if a poor person was aloud to lead things may be different..

    True Anarchy. Will never happen because hummans are greedy. So if there is no government and ppl can do whatever they want, ppl will just take what they want from who they want because ppl love fight and are greedy.. (there is actualy a good short story about anarchy as a utopian scociety.. but work for about 1 min)

    Dictatorship has built the human race.. yes you have the tyrants but you also have Ceasar, and Augustis Ceaser the 2 greatist emperors of the Roman Empire.. You had Alexander the Great. Ghangis Khan, Queen Elisabeth the First.. But you will always have you bad apples.. Now if you look at hitler Before the war he took a dead contry and turned it around.. they had zero unemployment and got the olympics..

    But the truth of the matter you will never see a good true and just government for the ppl.. Because Power Corrupts!


    KaMe
     
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  11. MamiyaOtaru

    MamiyaOtaru President Bushman

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    democracy for me.. the machinations on capitol hill in my own country do sicken me it's true. But still, the democracies of the world are generally doing better than the dictatorships.

    Of course, democracy has its weaknesses, in that it can become a dictatorship. Heck, you want a dictatorship, start a democracy and vote for a wannabe dictator. Happened in Germany
     
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  12. Nephilim_X

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    "Free men are not equal; equal men are not free."

    I don't know who said it, but it does ring true.

    Freedom does not necessarily come with democracy, look at all the politically correct stuff we have to deal with.

    However lack of freedom does not necessarily occur within a dictatorship.


    As democracies and dictatorships can widely vary in the treatment of people, no clear verdict can be reached.

    Democracy is slow and sluggish but gives power to the people (usually), whilst dictatorship is much more efficient but risks revolution if the people are unsatisfied with their leader or oppressed sufficiently.

    There are strengths and weaknesses in each, and even the question of dictatorship vs democracy is somewhat fuzzy to begin with.


    What do I prefer? That which gives me freedom while preserving my rights as a human being.

    "You can't satisfy all the people all the time."

    Therein lies the weakness of democracy. Try to take a drastic action and you'll end up pissing some group off.

    Just look at the many varied opinions of U.S. war with Iraq.

    Additionally sometimes people are fairly split about what they want. What happens when your people are close to evenly matched on what the country should do? You're damned if you do and damned if you don't.

    There is no perfect system.


    But I rather enjoy Canada's current political set-up. It is by no means without flaw but it usually moves pretty smoothly.
     
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  13. GenericHero5

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    It depends...who's the dictator? Is it me? Aww....damn...its not?

    As long as people think, there is no perfect government. Remember 1984? How the government turned nearly all the citizens into mindless drones, with false wars and falser enemies? To most of those pepole, that was the "perfect government." The citizens were blissfully unaware, kept docile and uncaring with cheap governmentt gin and ciggarettes. All media was under direct control of the government, rebels were crushed, and poors were killed. God Bless Oceanica, neh?

    People will be unhappy with the government, whether rich, poor, suppressed, opressed, depressed, offended or defended. People *****. They always have, they always will. As long as the government is stable and fairly decent, dont screw with it. You'll only make it worse.
     
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  14. Nephilim_X

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    And lets not forget Farenheit 451, featuring a corrupted democracy that was more a circus than anything else, which also kept its citizens docile and stupid.
     
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  15. MamiyaOtaru

    MamiyaOtaru President Bushman

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    It's always fun to see a thread come back from the dead :D Nothing wrong with a good zombie thread of course hehe

    /me abuses democracy and votes again :p
     
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  16. starlightmishi

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    okay..... the only way i would like a dictatorship is if i were the dictator! you all better hope that never happens...But i like democracy thank you. People forget why we even have government in the first place when one person has the power.Besides i'm all for poeple's freedom rights, everything equal.No communism!
     
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  17. Izzy

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    And a "Brave New World", y'know...the book Demolition Man is very loosely based off of? Anyway, I'm all up for democracy...because, as said, it's what works thus far. It's been working, so I'm not going to complain. Of course, that's not taking into account...the US's...current presidential elect.

    ANYWAY...it's all good and dandy so far. So...[picks up ponpoms] D-E-M-O-C-R-A-C-Y! What's that spell!?

    ...
    ...

    :sweat2:

    Errr..P.S.: I'd like to point out, that although democracy is supposedly all for equality. It'll be a cold day in...err...Nifelheim before that ever happens. It'd be good to see, but I don't think it'll be seen anytime soon. Unless everyone earns the same amount of cash, has the same opinion, outlook on life, same political agenda/party...get my drift?
     
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  18. Nephilim_X

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    heh yes but as the last few posts have been analytical and thoughtful, this is must be one of the SMART undead...

    So I'll pick one of my favorites.

    Dracula.
    [​IMG]
     
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  19. MamiyaOtaru

    MamiyaOtaru President Bushman

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    smart undead, yes indeed hehe

    "Unless everyone earns the same amount of cash.." that however would be inherently unfair. Some lazy bastage with the same rewards as a flat out hard worker?

    Democracy is not about complete equality of position, but (ideally) about equality of opportunity. One who has less can, through hard work, advance and get more.

    This is not perfect of course, some really do miss out on opportunities, and then going the orher direction are corrupt CEOs with golden parachutes. Things still need some work, but I think that work should be towards equality of opportunity, not total equality of station
     
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  20. ~ Zack ~

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    Eh, personally I'd prefer Anarchy, but I'm just strange like that. ^_^
     
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