Neon Genesis Evangelion Eva Units

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  1. Izzy

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    Okay, since Eva-01 is something encased in restraints rather than amor (to avoid spoilers, since they said this in ep. 2) and Eva-00 is a prototype, that leaves the other...12 Evas.

    Anyway, my question is, other than having an S2 engine...what's the difference between Unit-02 and Unit-03? Or Unit-04? 02 was the production Eva...but none of the other units looks remotely like 02. Is this because of the S2 engine? Or just a design thing? Perhaps a way to distinguish the three demons (00-02, see religious symbols thread)? What exactly is it?

    Edit: Okay, so basic body shape is the same, but everybody's eva's body looked the same after they refitted 00.
     
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  2. Nephilim_X

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    Probably a design thing. As these eva's were meant to be used in third impact, it'd be good not to restrain them... precisely why they have such weird heads, I don't know. Additionally they could glide, and the restraints would have weighed them down.

    But this is pretty much just speculation on my part.
     
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  3. Teen Samurai

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    Unit 00 was the prototype, Unit 01 was the one they put the most effort into (cuz it was made from Lilith, not Adam). Unit 02 looks different I guess cuz it was made in another part of the world. Unit's 03 and 04 were both made in the US so they look alike. And units 05 - 12 were mass produced so they all look alike.
     
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  4. Izzy

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    I already know that part, TS. Eva01 looked different. It was armor, not a robot. THAT was explicity stated.

    What I'm trying to ask is HOW are they different. What tech specs, and such. Dummy Plug and mass production not withstanding. I mean, if the S2 experiment failed in Unit03 failed...HOW did they manage to get it working in Units04-12? There must have been SOMETHING different about each series number, other than the production Evas. Ther has to be someone who does know, seeing as they have all this info about NGE. But, I try to look, but come up with nothing.

    Also, this slipped my mind, but who was 01 actually made from? I couldn't be Lilith (since she was the embryo delivered by Kaji), right? Damn, I haven't watched this in too long...must rewatch...I had just (not originally, but just now) thought that 01 was made from Adam...*GAH!* CONFOUNDED!

    But, you're right about that stuff you said though, if anyone didn't know about the Eva series models. If anything, this is a good delve into the mechs of the Evas.
     
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  5. Teen Samurai

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    Adam was the one Kaji delivered. If you recall, in End Of Evangelion, they were plainning on using unit 01 as a substitue for Lilith just like Rei was a substitue for Lilith (She had Yui's boday and Lilith's soul.)

    I believe that the test with unit 04 was sabotaged by Seele so that it couldn't break free and turn against them. They only used the S2 engine in the Mass Produced evas cuz they had no pilots or souls (They all used dummy plugs of Rei)
     
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    I think the Mass Production Evas used dummy plugs of Kowrou (forgive spelling) because if you look closely at the scene when the Evas are ejected from their transport planes, dummy plugs with his name wriiten on the side are slotted into them.
     
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    I didn't look that closely at it. All I saw was that it was a dummy plug.
     
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  8. Dredz

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    It is Kaurou.

    (forgive spelling)
     
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  9. ksuzumi

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    I think one obvious way that the mass-produced Evas stand apart are: 1) no pilot; 2) have some sort of backpack which the wings can come out of and fold back into 3) all come equipped with Lances of Loginnus (sorry if I misspelled that) 4) can change head shape into heads of Reis. That's all I can think of at the moment. See ya!:anime: :cool:
     
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    Actually...

    *spoiler alert*
    There are as many mass-produced evas as there are Shinji's classmates, a friend tells me. I havent bothered confirming this myself though.

    The 'lances' were more... bat'leth-esque weapons... true, one did get twisted into a Lance of Longingus style weapon via Unit 02s AT field, but thats it...

    As for the head changing bit, that wasnt really a feature, more a side affect of 3rd impact...

    */spoiler alert*
     
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  11. Izzy

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    There actually ARE as many evas as classmates. It might be off by one or two. However, those eva are STILL based offa the dummy plug system. That's one of the speculations as to why Rei's facce appears during the Impact.

    And didn't all the battle swords turn into Lance's when Eva-02 got skewered???
     
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  12. Nephilim_X

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    Hmm, looks like you're right about the battle swords.

    Weird. Just another unexplained Eva moment!:)

    As for Ayanami's face, it could also have been from Rei merging with Adam... will we ever know? Probably not.
     
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    ... Just a theory, for as always anno liked keeping us thinking, There was alot of hidden truths or just plain lies between what personnel & head figures in both NERV & SEELE, for Misato was told that the angel in DOGMA was Adam... but it turns out later to be Lilith, which also proves that units 00 & 01 are lilith for how could Gendo make Adam clones without Adam? It also goes with the hidden truth that if Adam comes in contact with Lilith it would initiate a third impact... Misato said this to Gendo as Rei was sent down to get the lance of longinus, yet again it was a clone of Lilith not Adam. As for unit 02 being Adam or Lilith, im not sure & may lean towards it being Adam for the unit came along with Adam's embryo both delivered by Kaji. As for the s2 engines... the data was still there but SEELE could have possibly sabotaged the tests afterwards so Gendo wouldnt know about it & not go through with instaling it into unit 01, for they were troubled when unit 01 consumed the s2 organ instead... Seeing as the data was still with SEELE they could go through with there plans to produce they mass produced Eva's (i call them the Sephirothic eva's for they formed out the Sephirothic table) & they have the wings possibly just as an experiment to add more human technology to them for unit 03 had extending arms whilst the previous units did not, for they were just farting about to see what combat abilities they could bring into it & as Fuyutski suggested in EoE they changed there faces because they were trying to merge with Lilith & they were all Adam clones for they were made in the places that SEELE had true control over & SEELE origenally had Adam... they all look alike because they were mass produced as someone said & they didnt have enough money to progress with designs & they were kinda rushed after unit 01 did it's cannibal thing :D

    All that & just merely theories... meh
     
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    I really don't think Unit 00 was made from Lilith... and them looking the same was probably nothing to do with money.

    I think SEELE already had Adam, and used it for Unit 00 and the prototypes before it, but Gendo wanted it for his own purposes... I'll think about it, though.
     
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    Izzy's back in the thread!

    Okay, as far as I know, they've NEVER used Adam for any of the Evangelion. It's always been a copy of Lilith. Or Lilith itself, as the case may be with Unit-01. The odd thing about *that* is, how was Third Impact created at all when there was no Adam there in the first place? However, it stands to reason that the body in Central Dogma couldn't be anyone else other than Lilith because Rei was absorbed into it. And besides, Kaworu himself said that the angel in Dogma was *not* Adam.

    Also, when Kaji delivered the embryo to Gendo, it was bathed in that electrolyte stuff. I believe this was Lilith too, however, that's certainly unfounded. But, no other mention was made of the embryo and the big white thing just appears out of nowhere? Me thinks they are one and the same.

    Dammit, I'm just confusing myself even more. That is, of course, unless you can believe a theory I *just* realized. Let's say that Adam was completely destroyed in the Second Impact. Now, with Lilith running around, and the Instrumentality project closing, there was only one viable option for the new Adam. Shinji. It couldn't be Touji, because he was put out of commission. I think it makes sense, not completely, but moreso than any other theory I can come up with. Because, if saying that Unit-01 was Lilith encased in armor, and Rei was Lilith's soul in Yui's body, and the body inside Dogma was Lilith's original body...then Shinji is the alien variant in that trinity...errr, make that group. He was given the choice to recreate humanity, right? So, does it make sense that *he* himself can be the other Adam?

    Nevermind, ignore my ramblings. For I am...sadly to say, an idiot.
     
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    The thing Kaji delivered was Adam. Gendo had it on his hand, which is why he was joining with Rei before she reblled against him and joined with the original Lilith.
     
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  17. Eva_Unit_X

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    The Eva Units...hmm...OK, this is what I know about them:

    -Unit 00
    Model: Prototype
    Eye Configuration: 1
    Color Scheme: Blue and White
    Genetic Blueprints: Lilith
    Soul: Naoko Akagi
    Pilot: Rei Ayanami

    -Unit 01
    Model: Test Type
    Eye Configuration: 2
    Color Scheme: Purple and Green
    Genetic Blueprints: Lilith
    Soul: Yui Ikari
    Pilot: Shinji Ikari

    -Unit 02
    Model: Production Model
    Eye Configuration: 2
    Color Scheme: Red and Yellow
    Genetic Blueprints: Adam
    Soul: Kyouko Zeppelin Souryu
    Pilot: Asuka Langley Souryu

    -Unit 03
    Model: Production Model
    Eye Configuration: 2
    Color Scheme: Black and Grey
    Genetic Blueprints: Adam
    Soul: ? (taken over by the 13th Angel)
    Pilot: Touji Suzuhara

    -Unit 04
    Model: S^2 Engine Prototype
    Eye Configuration: 2
    Color Scheme: Grey and Black
    Genetic Blueprints: Adam
    Soul: ?
    Pilot: ?

    -Unit 05 - 13
    Model: Mass Production Model
    Eye Configuration: None
    Color Scheme: White and Black
    Genetic Blueprints: Adam
    Soul: ?
    Pilot: None (controlled by Kaworu Nagisa Dummy Plug)

    -The armor on the Evas, as stated by Ritsuko Akagi, is not armor, but bindings that allow NERV to subdue and control the true power of the Evangelion.
    -Unit 03 and 04 are almost identical because they were both designed and manufactured in the United States. This is why they are different from Unit 02, which was designed and fabricated in Japan, but built in Germany.
    -The MP Evas all contain S^2 Engines and personal flight systems (wings).
    -The weapons used in 'End of Eva' by the MP Evas are copies of the Lance. They look like swords, but later morph into greyish copies of the Lance and share the same ability to penetrate AT Fields and twist into a spear.
    -All Evas have cores, which is seen when the 16th Angel 'fused' with Unit 00. They are where the souls are supposedly contained. They are NOT S^2 Engines, like what the Angels have. Only Unit 01 (after the battle with the 14th Angel) and the MP Evas have them.
     
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  18. Angel from hell

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    Interesting... partially wrong... but interesting none-the-less, i would have believed it more if you didnt get Unit 02's eye configuration wrong. Care to show us the link to your source? & there is no definate proof that Naoko is the definate soul of Unit 00
     
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    Unit-02 has the 4-eye configuration. Those little green dots are what 02's eyes are. But, 02 *does* have the MP body, because it was the launch and test of the kind of Eva they would/will/have used for Mass Production.

    Only 01's armor is a case for it to contain it's power. At least, that's what Ritsuko said. Of course, none of the other Evas are built off Lilith.

    Units 03 and 04 look similar (and in turn look similar to 02, sort of) because they're ALSO testbeds and the beginnings of the mass production series.
     
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  20. Angel from hell

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    Well she only says about the armour/bindings thing because Unit 01 was the only one that kinda broke free... Unit 02 did sorta, but only because it was picked to bits, so doesnt really count
     
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