First words from a newbie

Isao Tomita Mailing List - http://listen.to/tomita/

I just thought I'd jump in and make sure everyone knows about this source for
Tomita CDs:

http://www.mediawars.ne.jp/~mundo/collect/file/t-isao.html

I ordered several from them, and their service was superb.

You can also find a couple of bits from Jungle Emperor at my web sites:
http://hometown.aol.com/kimbawlion (faster)
http://kimba.tvheaven.com (easier to remember )

KWL


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Glad I could come up with something useful for folks!

Now, I have a question. When I first discovered that web site I mentioned,
they had listed a 4-CD set of Tomita's music for Jungle Emperor. But, when I
placed my order they said it was no longer available and removed the listing.
Does anyone know of this 4-CD set, and --better yet-- if I can get a copy?

Thanks.

KWL


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The CD set that you'd like to know was once released in autumn on 1999 but
encountered prohibition of sale soon after the release.
So Bandai had to delete the CD set from their catalogue immediately.
The reason was that court of justice ordered Bandai Music Entertainment, the
selling agency to suspend manufacturing of The CD set cause of legal action by
Tomita himself!
He did not like to recognise Bandai Music Entertainment to sell the CD set
regarding quality of the sound as the first reason.
But Bandai released at last before complete conclusion of negotiation with
Tomita.

I bought the set on October of 1999 and felt the quality was not bad at all.
I am still wondering why Tomita denied the quality and even the release.





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Isao Tomita Mailing List - http://listen.to/tomita/

Glad I could come up with something useful for folks!

Now, I have a question. When I first discovered that web site I mentioned,
they had listed a 4-CD set of Tomita's music for Jungle Emperor. But, when I
placed my order they said it was no longer available and removed the listing.
Does anyone know of this 4-CD set, and --better yet-- if I can get a copy?

Thanks.

KWL


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KimbaWLion at aol.com wrote:
>
> Isao Tomita Mailing List - http://listen.to/tomita/
>
> Glad I could come up with something useful for folks!
>
> Now, I have a question. When I first discovered that web site I mentioned,
> they had listed a 4-CD set of Tomita's music for Jungle Emperor. But, when I
> placed my order they said it was no longer available and removed the listing.
> Does anyone know of this 4-CD set, and --better yet-- if I can get a copy?
>
> Thanks.
>
> KWL


Yes I was looking for this. All the really big Japanese shops had it
last November for about $100 but when I made my rounds this year in
Japan they were all snapped up. I get the impression that anime CDs get
issued in very small quantities and when they are gone they are gone.
Someone also said there was another Tezuka boxed set in the same series,
"Black Jack" maybe? Did Tomita do that one.

Does anyone (like you) have a list of all the Tezuka series he worked
on, I know he did "Princess Knight", the "Pictures at an Exhibition"
film and at least one more tezuka series I was totally unfamiliar with
and forgot.

Anyway to compensate I picked up the one CD Jungle Emperor TV series
soundtrack (TOCT-10235) and Princess Knight (TOCT-10404)

Most CDs of 1960s Japanese soundtrack theme compilations will have a
couple pre-synth Tomita tracks. I bought a couple and I've usually found
a couple on each.

Got a "Grand Canyon Suite" since that was the only classical synth album
I didn't have on CD. (had the U.S. vinyl of course). The classical ones
in Japanese pressings do seem to be out of print. I only saw the non
synth albums "Shin-Nihon-Kikou","School" and the best of "The Cosmos of
Isao Tomita" (NOT the album "Cosmos" or "Kosmos" but a recent best of of
his synth work) and the regular best of releases. Imports of the
remastered "Snowflakes" were all over too. I remembered that Yamano in
Ginza always had just about all of his synth releases (which is rare,
most shops like say HMV would only have a random selection of 4 or so
even when they were in print), so I found my Grand Canyon suite there.


There is an interesting 10 CD re-issue series of early Japanese albums
using Moogs. None are classical pieces like Tomita. 2 have an amount of
historical interest to Tomita fans.

"Moog Sound Now" by someone who's name none of my friends, some of whom
are experts never, heard of, forgot the artist myself, it was written in
Kanji. It sounds like a stock standard US or British Moog cover album
but its Japanese and 1972, pre-Tomita. Hideki Matsutake had some
involvement as an assistant of some sort. The songs seem original but
have a muzak type quality so the sound like covers. Real drums and bass
guitar, etc.

Then there is "The Fantasia (The Invitation to the Stars)" by Hideki
Matsutake from 1978. This is a real cover album with easy listening hits
like "Fly Me to the Moon". He uses a lot of patches similar to Tomita
but its much much less complex and full sounding than Tomita at the time
who was already the great synth master by then. If you don't know,
Hideki Matsutake was Tomita's sequencer programmer and assistant in the
1970s and went on to sequence and program for Yellow Magic orchestra
then his own band Logic System which he still makes new works for when
not doing session work and commissions.

Tomita is doing another non-synth TV score for the NHK now. I forgot to
ask the name, I spoke with his coordinator.

nicholas kent
http://welcome.to/synths
lots of stuff about Japanese synth albums


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Isao Tomita Mailing List - http://listen.to/tomita/

>Yes I was looking for this. All the really big Japanese shops had it
>last November for about $100 but when I made my rounds this year in
>Japan they were all snapped up. I get the impression that anime CDs get
>issued in very small quantities and when they are gone they are gone.
>Someone also said there was another Tezuka boxed set in the same series,
>"Black Jack" maybe? Did Tomita do that one.

The CD set that you'd like to know was once released in autumn on 1999 but
encountered prohibition of sale soon after the release.
So Bandai had to delete the CD set from their catalogue immediately.
The reason was that court of justice ordered Bandai Music Entertainment, the
selling agency to suspend manufacturing of The CD set cause of legal action by
Tomita himself!
He did not like to recognise Bandai Music Entertainment to sell the CD set
regarding quality of the sound as the first reason.
But Bandai released at last before complete conclusion of negotiation with
Tomita.

I bought the set on October of 1999 and felt the quality was not bad at all.
I am still wondering why Tomita denied the quality and even the release.

Kyoichi Kawaguchi

kwc05151 at felinet.com


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Kyoichi kawaguchi wrote:
>
> Isao Tomita Mailing List - http://listen.to/tomita/
>
> >Yes I was looking for this. All the really big Japanese shops had it
> >last November for about $100 but when I made my rounds this year in
> >Japan they were all snapped up. I get the impression that anime CDs get
> >issued in very small quantities and when they are gone they are gone.
> >Someone also said there was another Tezuka boxed set in the same series,
> >"Black Jack" maybe? Did Tomita do that one.
>
> The CD set that you'd like to know was once released in autumn on 1999 but
> encountered prohibition of sale soon after the release.
> So Bandai had to delete the CD set from their catalogue immediately.
> The reason was that court of justice ordered Bandai Music Entertainment, the
> selling agency to suspend manufacturing of The CD set cause of legal action by
> Tomita himself!
> He did not like to recognise Bandai Music Entertainment to sell the CD set
> regarding quality of the sound as the first reason.
> But Bandai released at last before complete conclusion of negotiation with
> Tomita.
>
> I bought the set on October of 1999 and felt the quality was not bad at all.
> I am still wondering why Tomita denied the quality and even the release.
>
> Kyoichi Kawaguchi
>
> kwc05151 at felinet.com
>


So I remembered correctly and the other set was "Black Jack" or you
don't know what the second set was?

The quality of the Toshiba "Princess Knight" release was pretty poor.
Lots of tape noise and dropouts. The "Jungle Emperor" one on Toshiba
sounds old but isn't too bad...

Then again I heard second hand that Tomita thought the recording and
performance quality of the live 1999 version of "Tales of the Genji" was
well below his standards to the point where he was upset.


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>So I remembered correctly and the other set was "Black Jack" or you
>don't know what the second set was?

>The quality of the Toshiba "Princess Knight" release was pretty poor.
>Lots of tape noise and dropouts. The "Jungle Emperor" one on Toshiba
>sounds old but isn't too bad...


In my personal point of view both of CDs issued from Toshiba are very bad in
comparison with the CD set issued from Bandai Music Entertainment.
Bandai's version was remastered from the sereies of original tape source that
was found in storehouse of Mushi Production and enhanced with stereo-phonic
effector in Hi-Fi quality.
Most of the music in CDs from Toshiba remastered from soundtrack of optical
films.
For instance, I think you know a piece from Toshiba's one
"MITSURIN-NO-DAI$B!&(BGASSHO" and this piece of Bandai's version is quite clear and
"Karaoke" version without mixed "WhaaaWhaaa" chorus.

And Bandai plnned to issued "Princess Knight" 4-CD set as the other set but
not "Black Jack" soon after "Jungle Emperor" 4-CD set but had to stop this plan
cause of famous legal action.

Tomita's legal action was a sort of media event at that time and I have been
keeping a newspaper clipping about his action in last
year.

I still do not understand why Tomita had his legal action against high-quality
Bandai CD-set but not against Toshiba CD.
This is not complete answer for above mystery but a newspaper told us that
Tomita said "Such a CD set costs over 10,000 yen is out of question for regular
consumers."


Kyoichi Kawaguchi

kwc05151 at felinet.com


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In a message dated 11/15/2000 11:58:12 PM Eastern Standard Time,
kkawaguc at ices.co.jp writes:

> Bandai's version was remastered from the sereies of original tape source
that
> was found in storehouse of Mushi Production and enhanced with stereo-phonic
> effector in Hi-Fi quality.

I'm only guessing here, but I would like to suggest that this could be a
major reason Tomita objected to the Bandai set. In 37 years of record
collecting, I have heard a LOT of "enhanced to simulate stereo" recordings
and every last one made a mess out of the original monophonic sound. Some
managed to rise to the level of "not horrible"--Robert Parker (for one)
achieved some interesting effects, but even his work had absolutely none of
the clarity of the original recordings.

Still, the real news is that 4 CDs' worth of great Tomita music does exist on
a tape master in good quality sound. Maybe if someone can negotiate a release
of it that meets Tomita's standards... *sigh*

KWL


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KimbaWLion at aol.com wrote:
>
> Isao Tomita Mailing List - http://listen.to/tomita/
>
> In a message dated 11/15/2000 11:58:12 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> kkawaguc at ices.co.jp writes:
>
> > Bandai's version was remastered from the sereies of original tape source
> that
> > was found in storehouse of Mushi Production and enhanced with stereo-phonic
> > effector in Hi-Fi quality.
>
> I'm only guessing here, but I would like to suggest that this could be a
> major reason Tomita objected to the Bandai set. In 37 years of record
> collecting, I have heard a LOT of "enhanced to simulate stereo" recordings
> and every last one made a mess out of the original monophonic sound. Some
> managed to rise to the level of "not horrible"--Robert Parker (for one)
> achieved some interesting effects, but even his work had absolutely none of
> the clarity of the original recordings.
>
> Still, the real news is that 4 CDs' worth of great Tomita music does exist on
> a tape master in good quality sound. Maybe if someone can negotiate a release
> of it that meets Tomita's standards... *sigh*
>
> KWL


They did play his name up on the cover pretty prominantly which probably
rubs in the fact that they didn't consult with him. (The existing
Toshiba ones don't even mention him on the cover)

He may also hate, like Vangelis does, attempts to make albums out of raw
film cues instead of a cohearent suite of instrumentals like most
classic soundrack albums are arranged in. (though this of course isn't
feasible unless a recording of suites is made at the same time and the
regular sessions)

I don't know who represented him in the above legal dispute but I sat by
him and his lawyer at a dinner party and his lawyer was very cultured,
articulate and friendly. He gave him a copy of Jungle Emperor Leo, the
recent feature soundtrack which Tomita supervised the album himself of
course, but I wasn't invited in on the conversation so I don't know if
it connects. We mostly discussed synths and his creative use of them and
I had some small talk with his lawyer.

Not to put down the much loved Kimba music but there certainly must be a
lot of synthesizer recordings around also, and of course the man is
still an active composer today. Certainly would like to have the
material on the beforementioned set available properly though.

nick kent
http://welcome.to/synths


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