Video Games Greatest Console Ever

I'm sorry Blaze I can't help but laugh. You're arguing over something as trivial as semantics.

Lemme rephrase it if it will make you feel better.

Nintendo's monopoly on the handheld market is coming to a close. Thier newest HANDHELD is behind the times. DS sales are high because Nintendo is still king of the handheld. I am going as far to say that there is no console system in existence that has the game selection that the DS has simply because of its backwards compatability. It has over fifteen years of games you can select from.

However thier cartridge media is still inferior to smaller disks. True the DS is trying to move on to a flash media type of cartridge, however it's still a cartridge. The PSP has better graphics and sounds because thier media device is comparable to a Game Cube disk- they can add a whole lot more to thier individual games than Nintendo can.

Nintendo will learn from thier run-ins with Sony on the handheld front. I would almost guarantee that the next time they release a handheld it will be CD based. My argument is not that the PSP is superior, it's the Sony has been forcing Nintendo to change thier systems to conform to the times. Why do you think the N64 tanked compared to the PS? Nintendo didn't adapt to the new threat and chose to stick with cartridges. Thier system suffered as a result.

If I were a betting man I would say that the new Nintendo handheld will have larger screen, be compact disk based, and have a battery life that will be at least as long if not better than the current run of DS'. Graphically it will be as good as the Game Cube and probably have the advanced supports that come with the PSP; i.e. PC connectivity, ect.

PSP raised the bar, and that's a good thing for all of us. Now Nintendo has to try to one up them. Otherwise the next time the new PSP will drive Nintendo out of the hand held market, there is no doubt about that.

While I'm at it the other system I would place directly below the Greatest Console ever would be the Game Boy for reasons similar to those of the Sega CD. Its impact over the years is stunning. Handhelds are a staple in modern society.

Unfortunately handhelds are not really a 'console' gaming system, I can place it on the list.

Damn Semantics.

~W

:Edit: I almost forgot. Another reason why PSP sales have been down is because of thier price tag. A PSP costs as much as a PS2. That's outrageous. Man, why is it Nintendo DS junkies are rabidy defensive of thier handhelds? ^^

 

Maybe that was the point?

While this is true, it's not the UMD disc alone that causes these things. The only thing that the UMD disc gives the PSP is more memory capabilities for its game and movies. The PSP has better graphics due to its screen and video card. I'm not sure on the abilities of the DS's sound card, but I've been told that the Gameboy Advance actually has a very good sound card but it's the speakers that don't allow for very good sound. I'll assume the same thing for the DS.

The N64 suffered because the president of Nintendo at that time alienated third parties. Those third parties went to Sony and their Playstation and that's what caused the N64 to weaken.

I hope not. When I buy any kind of system so that I can play games on it, I expect it to focus all of it's abilities on playing games. The Xbox 360 and PS3 will both have DVD players. I don't want to pay an extra $100 dollars for one when I already have 3. Luckily, the Revolution's DVD player will be an optional accessory. I prefer my console to play games and that's it. If I want to watch a movie, I'll put a DVD in my DVD player. If I want to listen to music, I'll either go to VGmusic.com, play a game that has the music I wanna hear, or play the music in my head.

Had this been about handhelds, I would have said the same thing.

Probably because Sony and Microsoft fanboys are overly offensive against Nintendo.

 

Wert, the DS is a seperate line from the Gameboy line. Additionally, though PSP initially led with stronger sales, this has fallen due to the DS having a much stronger game library all around. I doubt that Nintendo will have to change much because frankly the PSP has a lot of faults, some which are unavoidable (the optical drive consumes a huge amount of power).

Hahahahahaha. No, really, why did you nominate it? What makes it such a stand out system that it could compete for Greatest Ever? I want to know your reasoning.

 

Granted, Famicom was the Japanese NES, so in the end it's basically the same system save for some cart differences.

edit: Unless you wanna include some minor enhancements. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Famicom

 

If we're going to get technical the GB Advance would be considered a different line than the original GB. Better processor, full color, and different cartridges. You can call it the 'super nintendo' upgrade of the gameboy world. The DS is the N64 upgrade of the same. Just because they dropped "Gameboy" from the packaging title doesn't change the fact that it's still a Nintendo handheld. You're arguing about a name. I'm arguing about the company behind the name raking in the dough.

Semantics.

Quite frankly the handheld market has grown stagnant over the past few years. Why is it I can still go the store and buy gameboy games that were just released with the same graphics of my old Pokemon Red and Blue? OVer 90% of the games on the Gameboy's still relied on sprites, and it's been how long since the first Gameboy was released?

The PSP excited me because now Nintendo has some real competition in that market. Now they will be forced to try and advance thier handhelds. If the PSP doesn't do as well as they hope then you can bet that Sony will correct the problems that plague this one. Nintendo has a leg up right now and as long as they view the PSP as a threat they will do what they can to keep their advantage- which means the handhelds of tomorrow are going to be something to behold. Technology will only get better. Batteries will last longer, optical drives will run off of less power, and screen sizes will only get bigger and more sharp. I believe that Nintendo WILL change because of this very reason. It's only a matter of time. I'm positive Sony will figure out a way around thier current problems. I guarantee it.

The PSP is a good thing for the handheld market. With the advent of the DS I can finally enjoy real polygons in a Nintendo handheld, however, in terms of sales and popularity, Sony's PSP isn't too far behind. Nintendo will have to evolve- thier handhelds will get better. That's a good thing- even you DS junkies can agree with me on this one. Competition breeds better products. In the end WE win.

~W

 

No, no, as in there are going to be two seperate handheld lines - the DS line and the gameboy line.

edit: Polygons do not a quality game make.

 

No, it wouldn't. You want proof it it? Here I'll show you proof. Take a Nintendo DS, a Gameboy Advance, and some other Gameboy and look on the big black sticker thingy and look for the Model Number.

Nintendo DS Model Number: NTR-001
Gameboy Advance: AGB-001
Gameboy Color: CGB-001
Gameboy Pocket: MGB-001
Gameboy Advance SP: AGS-001

If you noticed all of the Gameboys had a G in the middle with a letter in front of it that helps tell you which type it is.

A: advance
C: color
I'm not sure why the pocket has an M, I'm guessing it was for Mini but they changed its name to pocket because it was catchier and told you more of its design purposes.

On the SP, it has an S on the end. This was to point out the SP part because the SP's full name is Gameboy Advance SP.

If that was true, the DS would have an analog stick and wouldn't have 2 screens. If you haven't thought about it already, DS stands for Dual Screen.

There is only one thing that Sony could change about the current PSP to make it better without changing and hardware but still be able to do all of the same functions. And that is moving the analog stick to a more comfortable position because it's current location can give people cramps in their thumb. All other things that could be made better and are valid to what I stated earlier in this paragraph are the fault of Sony's faulty production line. They can't really change that.

While your points on the PSP creating competition to improve the handheld market it true, the PSP also gives casual gamers the thought that all game systems need to have tons of extra features besides games to be good. Again, I want my consoles to be focused on games.

 

Because it was one of the earliest consoles or w/e.
Maybe people who had played it may have preferred that for whatever reason.

 

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Keep this discussion "safe" alright? Or else daddy Teddz has to close this.

And I don't want to do that ;_;

- Teddz

And for not sounding too gestapo:

SNES / PSone gets my vote.

 

Please study console history more.

 

if ur on about it being ...well not exactly a console theni know, it was more of an early gaming PC, so i counted it as a console.

 

No, as in it didn't spark a big revolution of any sort in gaming. Since we're talking about greatest, you need more than nostalgia value, and I'm willing to bet that people are vastly overrating how much fun it was to type in your own program, hunt for the bug you accidently made for a half hour, and hope all five minutes of loading off the tape go smoothly if they think the ZXS81 was the greatest console ever.

Comparitively, Atari really pushed home gaming, the NES saved it and brought a whole new level of graphics on the field, the PS1, as much as I loathe to admit it, made cds worthwhile, and so on. A great console has to contribute to the industr, not just be another face.

 

My first, and assumed greatest, system was a Playstation 1, which sparked my interest in the Roleplaying Game genre. Of course N64 had it's greats in the RPG sector such as Mystical Ninja starring Goemon, but Sony had Squaresoft and Enix. This is based off of my own preferences, of course.

 

Why isn't there an "other" option? My first console the Atari ST i think is something that really got me into games in the first place. I didn't use it as much when i got my NES. I rememeber tring to hook the thing up again a few years later but it just wouldn't work for me .

 

SNES all the way, packed with so much Nintendo magic it had it coming outta the wazoo!

 

We all gotta love that Final Fantasy series don't we?