Square Enix Help! My materia hates me!

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  1. Lady Aoi

    Lady Aoi Princess of Shirataki

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    Yeah, so I'm playing FF7 and I'm realizing something: I can equip materia, I can use materia, no problem. But heck if I get how to combine the darn stuff.

    Here's the thing:

    If I'm trying to equip one of my characters' armor against, say, fire, how do I do so? Do I use all materia or elemental materia? Also, why did Aeris' armor start poisoning her when I put a poison/all combination in her armlet? (don't worry I took it off immediately!) I know that some materia combinations do this to armor, but I've never had such a problem before.

    I think I don't entirely understand what the all materia is supposed to do. Same for elemental.

    Further, I have recently aquired the Odin materia, but none of my characters seems able to use it, even Cloud who is almost at level 32. And only some of my characters can use the Ifrit materia, namely Yuffie and... Aeris I think. Nobody has problems using Shiva or Chocobo/Mog, though. Do they need to have higher magic levels before using it, or am I just plain equipping the Odin materia incorrectly?
     
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  2. Izzy

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    Okay, combining all->any magic enables the last instance in the FF series of multi-enemy/character magics. In short, it allows you to cast...say...Fire on all enemies instead of the usual one.

    Elemental adds the desired element to your armor/weapon. Obviously, adding it to your weapon makes it an elemental-based attack...and to the armor it adds protection. I'm pretty sure the effects of this goes up as the materia level goes up.

    On a side note, mastered ALL materia nets you a BUNCH of money and is the most easily disposed of materia in selling it.

    Mayhaps you didn't put them into connected slots? And I don't know why Aeris would suddenly be poisoned as that's never happened to me before. Although, I'm not privy to using elemental materia for my own protection, so I wouldn't know in the first place. And as far as I know, there should be no problems with throwing out summons as long as they have turns to be cast (you can only cast them every so often) and the MP to do so. It's strange that your Ifrit only works on so many characters though. :dizzy2:
     
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  3. GenericHero5

    GenericHero5 All Ska Super Star

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    Elemental wont work with poison, or paralysis/death attacks. That needs the Added Status Materia. Its like Elemental, but....for...the status effecting dealies.

    Also, i belive if you put an elemental summon (IE Titan, Shiva, Ifrit...etc,) and an elemental, it will work better.

    Also, Sneak Attack + (Magic/Command/Summon) Will start the battle with that magic/command/summon.
     
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  4. DrunkLeprachaun

    DrunkLeprachaun Tetsu Oushi

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    Hmm... Very strange. I've played that game a lot, and I've never encountered the things that you have. Equipping Poison should never make the character poisoned, are you sure the character was not already poisoned?
    As for some of your summons not working, the only reason I can think of for this(the only reason I know) would be that specific character just not having enough MP to cast it, try using MP pluses or resting or whatever.
    As for the All and Elemental materia, as the people said, all lets you use Magic(green) materia that usualy only targets one enemy, target all the enemies/the whole party. Elemental gives your armour/weapon power to defend/attack with that element(you can see what the effect is at the bottom of the screen).
    If you want to know more I'd be pleased to answer any questions you might have. I jus love talking about that game.
     
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  5. Lady Aoi

    Lady Aoi Princess of Shirataki

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    thanks, you guys.

    In retrospect, I may have been wrong about Aeris' armor freaking out and attacking her. I think you're right, DL. She was probably already poisoned and I just equiped her armor incorrectly. Either that or she was defending herself against the poison and I just saw the little green sparks and didn't look at her HP to see if any damage had been inflicted -_-;.

    My guess is that I'm just putting the materia in the wrong slots. Yet, last night, Vincent still couldn't use the Odin materia, and he had over 200 MP at the time. Basically the summon command is working, but when I select it, Odin doesn't show up in the next window. Could I have done something stupid like not scrolling down far enough to see the actual command? I'll check again tonight and see if anyone can use it. Cloud's almost on level forty now, and Aeris and Vince are somewhere in their thirties, so MP probably isn't the problem.

    Also, I'm a little puzzled by the Enemy Skill materia. So far, Aeris has learned five enemy skills (the ones I remember offhand are Frog Song, Death Sentence, ?????, and some flame attack she picked up from the Materia Keeper in Mt. Nibel). Yet, she can only use frog song, which, as you all know, does absolutely nothing against bosses.

    Oh well, at least Shiva's still working. And it just went up a level too. w00t.
     
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  6. DrunkLeprachaun

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    Now that you mention, it's more than possible you just aren't scrolling down enough. All the spells and summons in the game have set positions in their menu's, regardless of the order you get them in. Also, the only way you can put materia in the 'wrong' slot is if you want to use support(blue) materia, but you're not putting it in a linked space in a weapon, or if you want it to effect your attack or defense(only for elemental and maybe added effect{can't quite remember}). Hope this helps.
     
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  7. Lady Aoi

    Lady Aoi Princess of Shirataki

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    I'm so embarassed!:shy3: You were right, DL. I just didn't scroll down far enough when using Odin and Titan o_O;;;;; The attack worked fine, save for my stupidity (I felt better when odin knocked Palmer on his butt though ^_^v).

    Thanks again, all. I think I have my materia problems pretty much worked out... oh, except the last one I mentioned in my previous post. Basically, I have an enemy skill materia that has taught Aeris about six different attacks now. She can only use one of them (frog song). Does she need to be well over level 40 to use said attacks (?????, Death Sentence, Flame Thrower, etc.), or do I need to switch discs for this to happen? I know someone else in this forum had difficulty teaching Cloud his last limit break because of this. Also, I have Red's Cosmo Memory, but when I try to teach it to him, he won't learn it. Is this the same problem?

    Also, does everyone find the world map to be as much of a pain as I do?
     
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  8. Izzy

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    As an old-school FF fan, I always keep the world map in overhead view mode...it's just easier than having the camera move with you. That's a pain that I never really liked, so it was always on the Overview mode.

    As for the enemy skills, you don't have to be ANY level to have the enemy skills. Maybe it's doing the same scrolling mistake? Another problem that I can see is if you equipped the wrong Enemy Skill materia. Enemy skills are learned by getting hit by the baddies, true, but remember that they are learned by the materia, not the character. So, the skills might be on a different materia than you've equipped on Aeris.

    You won't learn Red's or anybody's final limits until you get every other limit that they have. That means, all of the Lv. 1 - 3. If not, then ya can't learn it. Truthfully, I find some of them really useless. Yuffie's is (she's the only one I can remember right now) because it's not multi-hit. That lv. 3 one does more damage because there's a limit at 9999 for maximum damage, so multi-hit limit breaks are just more effective.
     
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  9. BakaMattSu

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    As Izzy states, the Enemy Skill faux pas is most likely a scrolling thing. Unlike every other Materia type, Enemy Skills are all given a star order, and as such, each is given a specified spot on the list when casting. If I remember fully, Frog Song is one of the first shown ones, but if you scroll down you should be able to see the rest and cast them. No limits on using Enemy Skills, either, except in the case of low MP. Just equip said Materia with the appropriate Skill learned on it, and it works out...

    Unfortunately, a lot of the Enemy Skills are either near useless or harder to learn (i.e. finding the right enemy, and having it use that attack on you), so if you're having trouble with them it may be best just to ignore 'em...But then again, I really love Big Guard, White Wind, Trine, and Angel Whsiper...
     
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  10. Izzy

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    And beta from the midgar serpent. That was a life saver for a lot of battles. And goblin punch!!!!
     
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  11. GenericHero5

    GenericHero5 All Ska Super Star

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    Youll have to Manipulate (Via the Yellow Command Materia "Manipulate") a lot (LOT) of enemies in order to fill up yer E.Skill...Like a Zemellette will be able to teach you White wind, Adamantiums will get you mighty gueard (Not 100% sure on this tho)
     
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  12. Lady Aoi

    Lady Aoi Princess of Shirataki

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    i is an idjet

    i didunt skrol don tew sea the skillz. I'm a mornon ><. *smacks self* Thanks, guys.
     
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  13. DrunkLeprachaun

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    Just to coment on something Izzy said, I'm pretty sure you don't have to learn all the limits, just the first ones on levels 1-3, then you can learn the final one. Although, to get there, you'll most likely learn them all anyway. Any more questions?
     
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