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Discussion in 'Tomita' started by ndkent at o..., Jan 23, 2002.

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  1. Y2KKID2 at a... wrote:
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    > Hey everybody, I was just wondering if any one knows of Boards of
    > Canada and what synths they use. Their sound is so nostalgic and
    > memorable. The synth sounds remind me of old TV shows like "In Search
    > of", on the history channel now, but if you have any ideas let me know
    > =) thanks
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    no proof on either but my synth spotting senses say (other than the post
    being of topic) theres Arp Odyssey all over "In Search of".

    Boards of Canada seem more about processing and degrading slightly
    mundane sounds with old analog effects and tape until they get
    interesting, far more so than the raw sounds themselves, a lot I doubt
    are bonefide synths. Theres processed guitar and a lot of it sounds more
    like home keyboard sounds being messed up. I also hear electronic sounds
    being sampled to better play and arrange them.

    Actually Norman McClaren of the real National Film Board of Canada, who
    inspired the band's name had an obsessive technique of photographing a
    drawn optical soundtrack a frame at a tile thereby literally animating
    his audio score. I doubt they are doing that, though who knows in a time
    of renewed love for analog theres a lot of untapped potential for
    optical sound synthesis rather than oscillator based subtractive
    synthesis. Anyway what separates Tomita, carlos and a handfull of others
    from the rest of the synthesists is a dedication to spend months on the
    actual recording. Not re-recording and re-composing to acheive some kind
    of personal perfection but just the buiding of very detailed tracks from
    the ground up.

    nick
     
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  2. Hi

    I just want to say that I like Boards of Canada too!

    I think BOC aren't a synth or keyboard based group (if the two guys
    behind the name can be called group), I think BOC have more relation
    with the special mood that only they know how to puts you in... there
    are samples, noises and really simple things, they are OK with me
    cause their musical simplicity.

    If anyone is interested in BOC I recommend download somewhere the
    track "Aquarius".

    BOC will release a new album in february 18th. I think it is very
    long awaited in the WARP fan base and IDM community.

    http://www.boardsofcanada.com , then click in their link music70.com



    Anyone likes other WARP artists? Aphex, Squarepusher, Autechre? just
    curiosity :)

    http://www.warprecords.com/


    PEACE

    Neto
     
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  3. I like Plaid, Squarepusher, Aphex, Other People Place, I like them all!
     
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  4. Mmm Warp :)

    I'm a big fan of most Warpers, Aphex Twin, Squarepusher
    (especially Iambic 5 Poetry), Plaid, Plone (are they
    Warp?), and Autechre are good.

    I've been known to play the odd bit of Warp on my
    college radio show ;)

    http://www.inniu.com/ambient/

    John.
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  5. Yep :)

    Plone are also from WARP, I've just one track of them, the one that
    came in the wap100 compilation/single, and it sounds really
    nice!!!... I've seen the american version from their CD and think
    it's licensed to Matador Records, the same label with the american
    license of "Music has the right to children" from BOC [one of these
    days I'll buy that Plone CD].



    I still cannot access to the ftp site :( , definitively the reason is
    this browser. Think I'll try in other PC cause I really want to
    listen that Tomita stuff.

    PEACE

    Neto
     
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    > I still cannot access to the ftp site :( , definitively the reason is
    > this browser. Think I'll try in other PC cause I really want to
    > listen that Tomita stuff.

    well you really aren't supposed to use a browser, except it just so
    happens that Netscape isn't half bad as an FTP app. What is really
    needed is a dedicated FTP app. I have no idea whats out there but there
    are surely some shareware and freeware ones that can be downloaded

    nick
     
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  7. ixqy at a...

    ixqy at a... Guest

    In a message dated 1/26/02 5:33:01 AM Central Standard Time,
    ndkent at o... writes:

    > > I still cannot access to the ftp site :( , definitively the reason is
    > > this browser. Think I'll try in other PC cause I really want to
    > > listen that Tomita stuff.
    >
    > well you really aren't supposed to use a browser, except it just so
    > happens that Netscape isn't half bad as an FTP app. What is really
    > needed is a dedicated FTP app. I have no idea whats out there but there
    > are surely some shareware and freeware ones that can be downloaded


    I was finally able to access the Tomita files by using a download manager
    that I bought awhile back. I don't know if there is a Mac version. It's
    called "Reget" and is available here:

    http://deluxe.reget.com/?p=home?

    It's a great program. Some things that I like about it are that you can
    download many different files at the same time (perfect for us 56k users),
    even if saving the various files to different destintaion folders.

    Another neat thing about it is that you can save a description about each
    file either by typing one in manually, or just by highlighting any text on
    the originating webpage while selecting the file.

    Even better is that all of the files that you download are tracked in a
    "History" feature of the program. This mean that you can go back at a later
    date and find easily find something that you downloaded instead of looking
    around on your drive trying to remember the folder you saved it in.

    Andrew
     
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  8. Well I guess "we all like warp" but I'm not sure this thread is even an
    off topic discussion of anything. Like why be drawn to warp more than
    some other distinctive electronic label, like why not FAX? Mille
    Plateau? Childisc? Because they are more accessible? available? British?

    Anyway...

    Anyone here get to hear this soundtrack?
    http://www.kt.rim.or.jp/~nasu/t_disco/COCQ-83572.html



    I was thinking there are so few artists other than Carlos (who of course
    inspired Tomita) who have ever done synthesized classical music albums
    are considered superb IMHO. Now there are some okay examples
    from other people but none of them ever approach superb IMHO. Granted
    that 90% of anything is crap, still the odds of success just from a
    listening standpoint for others don't seem to be even one out of 10...

    Is it that the novelty of synths needs to be trancended? the
    pointlessness of trying to duplicate an orchestra?

    and Carlos and Tomita of course have a way
    higher success ratio than 10%. Aside from an easy explanation like
    talent what else could behappening. Like almost no one got to make more
    than 2 classical synth albums. But that doesn't quite work as a theory
    in that Tomita and Carlos made classic albums on their first serious
    attempts (both had done some released recordings prior but their first
    "real" albums rightfully got lots of respect and attention and still do).

    I just brought up what to me at least is kind of thought provoking.
    Tomita seems to take an incredible amount of time building up a complex
    sound from small elements (and uses a written score as a foundation as
    far as I know). This seems totally different from the prevailing methods
    used in today's electronic music. I guess the most opposite method would
    be "direct to tape", I hold this responsible for most of the crap out
    there. Someone improvises over possibly some live sequenced or looped
    sample material. Its probably exhilarating (and in some cases easy) to
    make from the
    performer's standpoint but there are few rewards for the actual
    listener. I mean in a live context there is a thrill if the performer
    can really pull off good grooves presuming their act is really live, but
    on recording all it really says is the artist has captured their live
    act for prosperity

    Then theres another method where an artist collects and generates stuff
    and then figures out how to put it all together via mixing and editing.
    In some cases there is actual thoughtful construction going on, no
    problem with that. But there is a phenomena or trend in art in general
    thats building momentum to collect, find and curate rather than create
    in the old fashioned sense. Good enough but where is "new" material
    going to come from if artists just mine and recycle


    nick
     
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