Saber Marionette Is Hanagata too abused in the series/manga/fan fiction?

...And where do you draw the line between good ol' fashoned fun and total misanthropy against the little dude?

This is for ALL anime and manga and fanfiction-dom. What do you guys think?

 

Well, in J...

i think he deserves it

(Lady Aoi's gonna kill me for this )

In JtoX, I dunno. He's just funny

 

Well, he deserves it very often in SMJ, but not so much after that. He has changed very much since then.

He really doesn't deserve it in Program 02

Spoiler: Seibaa Marionetto J Program 02

Otaru, Lime and Hanagata are running away from their chasers in Castle Japanes. Otaru speaks to Hanagata about friendship and loyalty and he makes Hanagata fall to the floor.

That is very funny , but it's too bad coming from Otaru.

 

serves him right, hanagata is way too annoying.

 

While I don't believe he deserves it every time, I think he does more than often enough to balance it out. Sooner or later, I'm going to make a list of all 'cruelty' against him in the series, complete with circumstances and how deserving he is of it. But it will have to wait a while. I'm far enough behind as it is.

Anyway, more often than not, he deserves everything he is given, and sometimes more, but there are times when the punishment is unjust.

 

SuperHana

Hanagata is almost exclusively used for comedy relief. He's just that kind of character. I can't say I've ever felt sorry for what happens to him, nor can I say he's ever been 'abused'. He continually makes his neighbors mad and is always getting on thier nerves. It's not like he's trying to stop or change who he is to quit getting stomped on.

But if he really changed then he wouldn't be "Hanagata", now would he? While he usually gets his come-uppances, and often times a little more, he's just that kind of character who almost seems to enjoy the abuse he gets, maybe like he's starved for the attention. I can't think of any reason why he continually throws common sense out the window and speaks his mind, or glomps Otaru, or... well, the list goes on. For a guy who gets launched into low orbit on a regular basis he sure doesn't complain very much about it, now does he?

Hanagata is fun like that. That's why we love him. He's got to have a hide as tough as leather by now. You know what happens to aircraft on Terra II. Hana flies more than anyone else on the planet. The plasma burns have probably made him damn near invincible!

 

[QUOTE/BakaMattSu]After that, however, I feel I've become desensitized to the whole thing. The abuse was just a constant in the series, and I no longer saw it as a real thrashing or abuse at all. I did look forward to seeing how his next entrance and exit scene would unfold (they do sometimes becomes very bizarre and entertaining)[/QUOTE]

I think the funny thing is, Hana became desensitized to it as well. The way he handles it later on in the series is comedy. If Otaru is down with it, so am I.

Anyone remember the "MeatBall" in the third program of SMJ (I think it was the third at least...). Remember how it got started? Like it or loathe it, Hana is the undisputed punching bag of the series.

 

Wow.

It's unanimous!!!

100% in a poll!!!

This should get in the Guinness Records!

 

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Invincible Hanagata... :shudder: At least, we won't have to deal with any more "Special Item Hanagata." :shudders even more:

...right?

[edit]And I'll revive an ancient quote.

A cookie to whoever figures out who said it.

I'm sure we'd all think him more deserving of punishment if he had that kind of voice, eh?

 

Where's my cookie?

 

I cant say I really agree with this. The original has a peculiar growl to his voice and when ever he goes on his rampant muttering fests (like at the start of Program 3 of SMJ) that growl really comes through. Not so much with the american dub. He looses that irritated growl for the prim and proper tone. The 'growl' was one of my favorite trademarks of the original hana. However Lady Aoi does have a point. Thank god they didn't roll with the steriotypical 'gay' voice.

Nice job finding that post Shinryu

 

Better late than never man.

 

I wonder now whose the second vote is
the Hanagata team I mean

 

On it's way. Beware, Luchs made it, and we were out of chocolate chips.

Heh, thank you. And I agree. Takehito Koyasu is far superior to... what's his name. And the same goes for the rest of the cast.

*Goes off once again to hunt down Kendra Masonchuk for reasons obvious*