Recreation Jedi Academy

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  1. Phalanx

    Phalanx Long Live M2A!

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    Bring it on Odin. Your ability is a power, mine is a skill, who's is better? Look down my barrel and see your future, if you don't fall for that one, then I can pump out 10 shots a second (this thing really can do that), so I doubt you can be that fast for that long.
     
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  2. Odin

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    I have been challenged . . .

    . . . so prepare for a fight.

    Did you deliberately misread me when I said "my SKILLS with the Force"?

    The ability to use the Force well is certainly a skill, as the definition of "skill" is "the ability to do something well, arising from talent, training, or practice." If it was *simply* a power, then why would a jedi academy exist in the first place?

    At least my grammar SKILLS are.

    I look into the eyes of my enemies.

    That's all good and fine if your "thing" really can do that. I would also like to remind you that if you have a "one-shot-one-kill" philosophy, then why would you NEED to be able to get out ten shots in one second? That's almost self-defeating isn't it, to say you're so precise and then boast that you can shoot me nine more times in case you miss the first.

    I am trained to block and reflect shots from blasters, and possibly redirect such blasts to the attacking enemy. This means that my reflexes are as fast (though in most cases, slightly below) as the speed of light so I can make such moves in an accurate and practical manner. Being able to fire ten rounds in a second puts you way below the speed of light.

    In a vacuum, the speed of light is approximately 299,792,458 meters per second. Since we don't live in a vacuum, of course, the velocity would be slightly less, though that number is negligible. Even if I were to say the trigger of your blaster moves back an entire meter (which it certainly does NOT, but I'm giving you EXTRA room here to your BENEFIT), then your finger would be moving 20 meters within one second (since I would assume it is moving back and forth for each shot). This makes your voluntary "finger-speed," as I'll call it, about 14,989,622 times SLOWER than the entire REACTION speed of my WHOLE BODY.

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    -Odin
     
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  3. k0gepan

    k0gepan New Member

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    all I can say to that is......ouch. and I mean OUCH. Poor Phalanx. Honey, you gotta work on that one.
     
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  4. Phalanx

    Phalanx Long Live M2A!

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    I didn't realize u'd break out the science book over this.

    I can snipe someone with one shot, but that won't work against a jedi in pitch battle (they know it will be coming). So I can re-configure the gun to pump out 10 (max 19 but its not good for the parts) shots a second. What makes you think I am self contradicting myself all the time? Ever heard of something that could do more than one thing (oh yeah, you guys use shinky glowing stick [lol]), I can use either of the two (plus some added features in my suit) so the choice is up to me.

    And what makes you know what weapon I use? When I re-configue the shot on my main gun, all I have to do is hold the trigger down and wait for your folly. Look at Obi-Wan against Jango Fett on that cloning planet? Did it look like fun? NO... Did it look easy? I'd have to admit that nither of the fighters had an easy time. All that really ended him was the fact that his rocket pack was taken off line. But we Bounty hunters don't fight in pitched battles, we stalk, hunt, learn your habits and wait for an opening. Notice how Obi Wan didn't detect that dart coming that killed the assassin in Courescant (spelling off, I know), that'd be a nice way to eliminate you, I could even make a statue of you too for my special room. I know how to meditate and freeze my mind, so you won't be able to sense me (I can really do this so this is no BS;) ). That's when I use my dart and "One shot one kill baby!" Not everything has to be done with a blaster (bo-yeah). Besides, I don't have to go after you either. I can get you were I want by taking out those you hold most dear (a-la, Empire Strikes Back [altho Fett didn't kill them]).

    Hands moving at the speed of light?!? well now that a new one, were's your proof that jedi can do this (so far all I got is words). They don't see the projectile coming (remember Luke and Obi-Wan), they sense it and are able to head it off, tho I admite they are really damn fast. Still, did you notice how many jedi died at the hands of a mob of machines in Episode 2? So don't tell me you jedi are infallable, because that is indefiable proof that you are NOT!

    *sigh* are you so afraid that you have resolved to claiming a false authority over my ability to speak/write? If your reffering to when I said that the usage of the force is a power compared to your view of it as a skill, that was more of a personal view. We who don't delve into it call it numerous things that you wingers (reffering to the sound a lightsaber makes when it moves[lol]) may not agree with. Hell, Han Solo called it "Luck", why don't you go complain to him too jedi?

    I admit that jedi are the hardest of the victims to kill, but you bring in the biggest bounties. It will be no easy match, but you, O-overconfindent jedi, are not going to have a walk in the park either, not even close (muahaha). I'd say the score is even, wouldn't you jedi (said with sly voice)?
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  5. Odin

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    As a bounty hunter, you should be ready for all possible outcomes.

    Notice that I NEVER said that you contradicted yourself all the time, and I NEVER implied that I thought that you were self contradicting all the time. My exact words were, "I would also like to remind you that if you have a 'one-shot-one-kill' philosophy, then why would you NEED to be able to get out ten shots in one second? That's almost self-defeating isn't it, to say you're so precise and then boast that you can shoot me nine more times in case you miss the first."

    I was simply pointing out that you shouldn't have to talk about about how many shots you can crank out in a second when just in a previous post you were boasting that you were the "lord of the one shot one kill philosophy." That's like me saying that I am the lord of the it-only-takes-one-try-for-me-to-get-a-ring-on-a-pop-bottle but then go buy fifty rings when I play the game at an amusement park.

    Whether your weapon can shoot once or nineteen times is of no concern to me. Any different functions that your weaponry contains were not a subject of the arguments I held against you. You are misreading my debate statements. Again, I never said in my previous post that you were contradicting yourself.

    I'll quote your from your first post. You said you were a "Master of the blaster," which is why I talked about blasters in my initial post. You also say "Look down my barrel and see your future," which also indicates that you use a blaster or some sort of firing-mechanism-with-a-barrel as your weapon of choice. I assumed that your weapon would be shooting a laser of some type, so unless you were planning to use a death star-type weapon on me or a gigantic ion cannon, then I was looking at things to your benefit (as I doubt you would pull a magnum out on me. If so, I could still defeat it). DO take note that in my initial debate post, I say "That's all good and fine if your 'thing' really can do that," indicating that I wasn't assuming 100% that the weapon you mentioned was, indeed, a blaster.

    Before I directly respond to your statement here, I'm going to go back to a previous statement you made in your post:

    You ORIGINALLY state that a Jedi would know that a sniper shot from you would be coming. You are right, however in saying that Obi-Wan didn't detect the dart that killed the assassin. So . . . it would be a nice way to eliminate me with a sniper shot as you say (or "that'd be a nice way to eliminate, as you state), yet it also doesn't work against a Jedi? This here, my friend, is a CONTRADICTION. To settle this quandry, the question of why Obi-Wan didn't detect the dart aimed for the assassin must be answered. This subject, however, I find quite irrelevant as Jedi can detect harm aimed for other people if they wish to (notice how Anakin AND Obi-Wan detect the creatures about to attack Queen Amidala).

    Obi-Wan and Jengo Fett were quite evenly matched, so using their fight as an argument also remain irrelevant.

    Through the Force I am capable of sensing more than just physical presence. I can sense emotions. Are you capable of attaining Mu [Japanese term for emptiness] like Ogami Itto? Can you hide the Saki [blood lust] in you? If so, your mind cannot prevent me from detecting the movements of a dart, as through the Force I can detect its energy.

    If you go after those most dear to me, then you are sinking to an abhorrable low, and you would no longer become a worthy opponent.

    Actually, the reaction speed would be just below the speed of light, since the atmosphere reduces the speed of light. My proof of this is Luke Skywalker himself, who is capable of blocking laser blasts. Lasers travel at the speed of light. If young Skywalker's reaction time was not just below the speed of light and timed exactly to block the laser blast, then he would be shot. Do keep in mind that the Force acts as a guide in moving the body at such high speeds.

    Jedi aren't infallible, that's certainly true. We are quite capable of dying. You don't prove anything more here . . . it's not like I would be fighting dozens and dozens (or hundreds) of bounty hunters like you at the same time. We're talking one-on-one, and I'd hardly call the Arena Battle in Episode II a one-on-one battle.

    AGAIN, you've misread me. When I said "At least my grammar SKILLS are," I was referring directly to your sentence "who's is better," which contains a grammatical error. I was taking a very cheap shot at you. I can't say anything about your ability to speak, though if I wanted to I could take more cheap shots are your spelling and grammar. I won't, however, since it would be stupid to continue to do so. I was NOT referring any more in that sentence (which you quoted) to the definition of power compared to that of skill.

    I am not capable of complaining to Han Solo.

    I would say that the score is in my favor.

    -Odin
     
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  6. artemis836

    artemis836 Vampire Slayer

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    The Story so far...

    Odin and Darth Artemis: Jedi are cool yo!

    Phalanx: U Sux

    Odin: U Sux more

    Phalanx: You sux morest

    Odin: Morest isnt a word FOO!

    ::Darth Artemis gets headach, waves hand in front of Phalanx::

    Darth Artemis: You don't want to argue with Odin...

    Phalanx: I don't want to argue with Odin...

    Darth Artemis: Your life long dream is to become a door to door
    cheese grater salseman...

    Phalanx: My life long dream is to become a door to door cheese grater salesman...

    Darth Artemis: You wish you were a Sailor Senshi...

    Phalanx: Hey! WTF?? That's pushing it!
     
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  7. Odin

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    eleeSleknuD, you have no clue what you're talking about.

    I'm not in AP Physics.

    Don't HOUND on Phalanx, it's not like there are three bounty hunters picking on me at the same time.
    -Odin
     
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  8. Phalanx

    Phalanx Long Live M2A!

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    Ho hum, well I guess I give in (my majoring in anatomy isn't helping me much here). Odin, we'd have no easy time taking each other out. U might kill me, I might kill you. I admit that the average jedi can take out the average bounty hunter any day of the week. But they can't take out a good bounty hunter so easily (at least have the balls to admit that..). At least I got a cool suit, an array of weapons and can fly around (artemis, u watch out too young wanna be jedi, the underworld is a lot bigger than you two goody goody wingers think]).

    I was thinking too. What would u jedi do against an acid gernade or something like that. If you block it, it gets on you, and unless you get far enough away, it'll get on you still (just wondering, there expensive but might be handy).
     
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  9. Odin

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    I do admit that it is difficult to take out a good bounty hunter. Though, 'tis better to lose no life than a hunter's or a jedi's.

    Yet I have won this day!

    With all of that aside (thank heavens) . . .

    The only possible solution I could see to avoid any type of grenade (or thermal detonator) would be to toss it aside to keep me out of its explosive range a'la the Force.

    There won't be any enmity between us from now on, ne? I hope not.

    -Odin
     
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  10. Quistis

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    Spoilers of Star Wars in here

    Wow You guys really want to be a Jedi, but what about your Jedi master, Where is he? Oh, and if you train don't forget to study the effects of mind control on the weak minded, and the flowthing objects. All I can say is good luck and the rules of the jedi have changed according to Luke Skywalker. You can have sex and get married. If any of you read the comic book union you would know that because Mara and Luke get married. Before that Han and leia did. Then L+M have a kid in a new novel series called Alpha Prime. Leia has three kids Jacen Jaina and Anakin. Also if you want to know. Someone in the Star Wars saga dies. I will not say who, but you can figure it out yourself. Anyway I would love to be a jedi, but :( I don't have a lightsaber I can play with. My Star Wars collection is very big and I am very whise in the knowledge of Star Wars. And one more thing The bounty hunters in Star Wars always die. I ep.06 Bobba goes into the pit of Concun, in ep.02 Zan Is killed by Jango and then jango is killed by Mace Windu. So all those big bounty hunters out there eventually are going to die. And a jedi can do anything with the power of the force even stop a acid grenade by just reflecting it with the movement of their hands. Anyway Viva La Rebellion and May The Force Be With You!
     
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  11. artemis836

    artemis836 Vampire Slayer

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    Yeah, the bounty hunters do always die. But when you think about it, the Jedi aren't too well off either:

    Anakin Skywalker: Dead
    Yoda: Dead
    Obi Wan: Dead
    Most of them coolio Jedi in Ep 2: Dead

    The Star Wars Universe is a dangerous place. :D
     
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  12. Odin

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    You rock, Quistis.

    [the force is strong with this one]

    What type of Star Wars stuff do you collect?

    -Odin
     
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  13. Phalanx

    Phalanx Long Live M2A!

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    Agreed, no hard feelings. A ruthless killer I am, but I am an honerable ruthless killer (if you can believe that). I know when I have messed up enough to lose the battle and there fore admit defeat. There are too many jedi here for one hunter to take on. So I leave my mark and survive to fight a jedi yet another day. Tho I can't help but feel that you didn't understand much of what I said. But its okay, I might have paitence during a hunt, but for some reason I don't don't have the paitence to re-read what I say am make sure I don't sound like i'm saying one thing then doing something else :eek:.

    About the bomb thing, damn. I forgot about you guys being able to toss stuff aside with your force ablilty. Damn, tha'd probably do more damage to me than anything else. Guess I have to go back to work on my "headache machine" Laterz.

    - The Bounty Hunter Kayonnas Phalanx
    pronounced (kay, on us)
     
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  14. Quistis

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    I have collected Star Wars stuff from the being the movies came back out on the big screne. I started with Taco-bell they where selling promotional Star Wars toys for the realese of the originals back to the theather. Then I just go to wall-mart every time to time see something I want then save up and buy it. The most expensive thing I bought was a sown speeder that was 60$$.

    Now a days I usually waith till things are on sale b/c I don't want to spend all my money. I think I have a little over 100 toys. My room is just a half girly teenager room and then a half Star Wars universe. I always get lots of stuff for Christmas. I know I am not sappost to, but most of the toys are opened b/c there is not that much room in my room for packaged up stuff. Also I think it looks better sometimes unwraped, b/c when it's wraped up your room looks like a Star Wars store. The only original stuff I have is 1982 Return of the Jedi sheets unwrapped in good condition.

    I collect anything that I see at a store. The most I have is Ep.01 stuff b/c a lot of it was on sale b/c no one wanted it (probably because that movie suxs compared to the others). I am now trying to get Star Wars Lego, so far I have a large Jango Fett, A pit droid, a scene of Anakin vs. Tuskin Raiders, and the guard ship of the cloud city. oh and Han and Luke on one of Jabba's ship's about to go in the pit of Concun.

    I love Star Wars and wish I could be a jedi, I also have books comics and music of Star Wars
     
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  15. Odin

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    I'm glad you open up your Star Wars stuff. Toys are meant to be opened and enjoyed! My dad's a huge Star Wars buff - he collects the books, cards, and comics, mostly. I remember during my seventh and eighth grade years, we'd be going out every couple months or so to non-sports-card conventions to snatch up SW collectibles. During the re-release of the original trilogy, he bought up the figures like mad. Even worse, he'd buy two of each - one to keep in the card and another to open so my brother and I could play with them. Our toy lightsabers are so marked up and bent . . .

    I remember the whole Taco Bell Star Wars toys thing . . . I also remember when Doritos had these little star wars hologram-type discs/cards in their chip bags.

    Have you seen the new lego Star Wars mini building sets? They're pretty neat - I got the snowspeeder/AT-ST and the X-wing/Vader's Tie Fighter sets.

    We used to have the original X-wing, TIE fighter, and a twin cloud car, but my brother and I busted them all up. Half of the X-wing is . . well . . . snapped off, and I think one of the solar panels of the TIE fighter was lost. They used to be my uncle's, and he gave them to us when we were really young. I feel so bad now that I ruined those toys . . . oh well!

    BTW, Artemis and I are going to eventually put up a pic of us with our Jedi Master, Master Zappa, along with some other pictures.
    -Odin
     
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  16. eleeSleknuD

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    My dad saved me all the trouble of buying the Star Wars toys:
    HE WORKS FOR KENNER!! (though they are now a subsidary of Hasbro, and their only office is in RI....)

    He got me 2 of everything, and I even have 3 absolutely unique, one-of-a-kind (because nobody in their right minds wants them drop-test models. That is, the put the toy up 6ft over a concrete floor and then drop them to see what breaks off.
     
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