Recreation Knight vs. Samurai

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  1. Hitohiro

    Hitohiro Angel of Wind

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    Well, I hate to be partial but my vote goes for the Samurai. My reasons are many that have been listed but I like to look at it in tactical way. The Samurai were very smart when it came to tactics and noticed every little thing.
     
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  2. Samurai Me

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    Yes they did,I have a book that is very in depth about tactics and strategy!It would blow your mind some of the strategys they had!But I still am not gonna pick sides!Although I wish we could know!
     
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  3. Eternal-Blaze

    Eternal-Blaze New Member

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    I say we find 2 people on BJP who are willing to research and train in the way of the knights/samurais and then all chip in to buy them their typical equipment and then make them battle it out to see who will win(with non lethal weapons, of course). Then we make the winner fight against me!
     
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  4. Samurai Me

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    Ummmmm,that probally won't work you know,it would be hard,and they would have to train awhile!
     
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  5. Superfly

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    That's why we have to train in the Hyperbolical timechamber lololol!!11!
    :rolleyes:

    You know I'd win, because I would kick sand in your eyes...
     
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  6. Samurai Me

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    Lol:D If there really was a hyperbolic time chamber,I would be there in a heart beat.And ya woudn't win,because I don't think theres sand in there!
     
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  7. FireDragon_16

    FireDragon_16 A Sionbosys Unit

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    you know..this question makes an answer UNCERTAIN..
    Both are humans...and..it all depends on strength of the 2 types..and...the skill...so i would say...it could be..both..even there is luck in the play....i just would say...MEN VS MEN = UNCERTAIN OUTCOME OF BATTLE

    And some of you say..armor of the night makes it that he wins the battle..that really depends on weight...thickness, effectiness of weaponry...there are all little things in play...

    And samurai...i do think...they are quite ...a little further...but...a knight...is also a warrior...even if youve practiced years of samurai stuff...i dont think there is a 100 % chance of winning..

    Well some knights are tough...and yeah..have you seen "BERSERK" :p...i know its just anime..but...there is some truth in that...the bigger the sword...and years of training ...with it.... u would win..*little factors come in play..as ive mentioned above*

    My bet...would be a High skilled Knight ;)
    but..sometimes...i wanna change my answer to this a samurai whos got 1 thing on his mind...to defeat THE KNIGHT WITH ALL HE's GOT (going suicidle?) :p
     
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  8. Samurai Me

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    Well yes,thats true!Well,I have done alot of thinking,and I say,the samurai I guess,and these are my reasons,

    I have practiced there art of fighting,and it is very deadly!

    Samurai have many strategys,and they would notice that there is no armor near the joints!

    Plus,with no armor,the samurai would be much faster than the knight,but he would be dead if he got hit!

    Knights probally wern't really use to opponents that had a variety of tricks,such as double dealing(Very deadly if your opponent falls for it!)

    And they probally would be slower,and that does play a factor,plus,samurai were far more diciplined than the knights!

    Know,these are my reasons,but I still say we will never really know!
     
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  9. Nightmare

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    To under estamate any enemy is a failure beyond a doubt.

    Samurai arn't the only ones who would have notice the joints, The knights would have realized thier joint weakness as well and I think they could tell by the way the samurai was dressed for battle that mobility would be thier strength.

    weren't used to apponents with a variety...No offense The knight is a varity of warriors. No set patterns no set tactics. Thier are numours different knights meaning many different fighting styles and weapon preferences

    Pendind on how the knight is fighting and his weapon of choice, this is a factor that can change the way the samurai would look on his opponent. Oh they was more diciplined...no..i'm pretty sure both were even on most parts. The knight's had thier traditional ceremony of becoming a knight and coming from young page to full fledge knight took the better part of thier early years of youth. Sound similiar to the samurai?
     
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  10. Samurai Me

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    Kinda,but from a young age children as young as 7(I was 8)Started training all there life till they were samurai!Know,you are right in almost every aspect,except for one teany tiny thing,That not all knights were as diciplined as the samurai.Im sure there were plenty that were,or even more diciplined,but the samurai were trained in dicipline,and alot of techniques they used took the utmost dicipline to do them right,and to master them.But you are right.
     
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  11. Hitohiro

    Hitohiro Angel of Wind

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    Well there's one thing everyone has to undersand. Skill, strength, speed, experience, etc. All of these things play an important role in the battle, that they do, but there is one other thing. The one thing that determines the battle is....the first to mess up. The first one to make a dramatic tactical error, wrong foot placement, is the one that loses. A normal battle lasts only a few seconds and within that time, someone WILL make a mistake, the first that does, loses much more than a fight, indeed they do.
     
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  12. FireDragon_16

    FireDragon_16 A Sionbosys Unit

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    what u discribed above....sounds like Rurouni Kenshin, if youve seen that anime...u will understand what we are talking about...but my beth would be a KNIGHT..look at berserk...pain isnt anything...its just a warning of the brain...fight like u have 5 seconds to live...and take your enemy down in those few seconds....sounds....exciting :cool:
     
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  13. Samurai Me

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    You are absolutly correct Hitohiro,first one to make a mistake loses,and fire dragon_16 is right to.Duels are exciting,espeically when your up against some one equal to your skill!(Whooohooo:D )
     
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  14. Rai Konoko

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    suppose the take the helmet off would work if the knight was retarded enough to let him, even if he was, the samurai needs to sheath his sward take off the helmet(unclip is and untie it) then take his sword back out, oh lets not forget the chainmail worn on the head aswell. and if the knight is smart he would drop his sword anf give a punch to the face on the samurai, steel/iron gauntlets would do the trick dont you think?

    But i do suppose the outcome on who would win depends on the fighting conditions.
     
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  15. Eternal-Blaze

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    That's why I got the other 5 things listed there. Like simply pushing him and then he can't get back up because of his armor.
     
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  16. Nightmare

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    To say the knight would fall down from a push or wouldn't have enough mobility to manuever such as his target is underestamating the knight. Fullplatemail isn't as heavy as it seems. Most it can way is around 70 or more pounds and if you take into consideration on how knights fight strength is one of thier greater assests. Even though they would be slower then the samuri they still would be able to manuever around like a bat out of hell
     
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  17. Eternal-Blaze

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    It's not really the weight of the armor that's working against the knight, it's the fact that the design of the armor restricts the way you can move. You just don't have a very large range of movement for your arms and legs. I should know, I've been in a suit of armor before. I could really only do generic attacks with it on. But since we were on the subject of broadswords earlier, it was actually quite easy for me to stab with it.

    Also, it's not like you can just barely tap a someone wearing the armor and they'll fall over, but once you do push them hard enough to make them fall over it's very hard to get back up. You'd have to roll over so that you're front side down and then you'd push yourself up so you're standing up on your knees and then slide a leg forward to put your foot on the ground and then try it with the other leg. If he could do this, it would take so much time that the Samurai would easily be able to do something to the knight or just push him back on the ground.
     
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  18. Samurai Me

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    Yet if the knight is very use to the armor,then he could probally get up pretty fast,and would not let you push him!:rolleyes: He would probally deck you before you could get close enough.
     
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  19. Rai Konoko

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    yeah, first you gotta dodge a blow from a shield, and even then you try pushing down a very heavy man.
     
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  20. Nightmare

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    But Eternal-Blaze even though you have been in full armour wouldn't the physical atributes of you and the knight be very different in terms of speed,strength and reaction? also wouldn't the years of training help the Knight prevent actions such as that?
     
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