Planets DVD-A...WHERE???

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  1. Hey Tomita lovers...

    Pardon my ignorancne but its very hard surfing the web looking for a DVD-A
    version of The Planets, with half the sites in Japanese.

    Can someone give me a link to a legimate source to order a copy, for
    delivery to North America?

    Thanks in advance.

    Amin
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    amin at bhatiamusic.com
    www.bhatiamusic.com
     
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  2. I got mine from hmv.co.jp. The site is in Japanese, but there is an option to
    view the site in English. (And more of the site comes up in English than
    amazon.co.jp!)

    I've used them a few times for Sakamoto, Tomita & Pat Metheny stuff and they
    are very efficient and helpful when you email them in English. They're quick
    also, however that is also their downfall since they FedEx all their overseas
    parcels out, and this adds quite a lot to the delivery costs, more than normal
    postage.

    However in the UK the post office has a nasty habit of applying extra customs
    and handling charges for anything over £20, so the FedEx route works out
    about the same as if you got clobbered for customs duty on top of the CD/DVD &
    postage! Six of one half a dozen of the other!

    Another thing regarding the Planets DVD-A, hmv.co.jp had difficulty gettinga
    copy in Japan despite it bing only just released over there. They anticipated
    getting it out next day to me but in fact notified me to say it would take
    around 2-3 weeks for them to get a copy! Why is such a major retailer in Japan
    having such a difficulty getting a DVD-A from Denon who let's face it aren't
    exactly small fry?

    Hope this reply helps.

    And Hi to the rest of the group from the UK. I read your comments with
    interest. Sorry I don't post that frequently,

    HalloweenVince
     
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  3. HalloweenVince at aol.com wrote:
    >
    > I got mine from hmv.co.jp. The site is in Japanese, but there is an option to
    > view the site in English. (And more of the site comes up in English than
    > amazon.co.jp!)
    >
    > I've used them a few times for Sakamoto, Tomita & Pat Metheny stuff and they
    > are very efficient and helpful when you email them in English. They're quick
    > also, however that is also their downfall since they FedEx all their overseas
    > parcels out, and this adds quite a lot to the delivery costs, more than normal
    > postage.
    >

    I'm guessing the whole format must be rather new, and with Sony pushing
    SACD and DTS still floating around retailers probably don't want to overstock.

    That said, I tried to order it from cdjapan.co.jp exactly a month ago
    and they were unable to deliver it, though I did receive another album
    some friends had trouble getting elsewhere. Their inability to deliver
    made me speculate (with no proof) that maybe Dennon stopped selling it
    temporarily in order to repress it??

    So currently I've been waiting for amazon.co.jp to deliver. While their
    site says 10 to 14 days their esitmate once they placed the order seems
    to be at least 3 weeks plus the shipping time, in other words at least a month.

    For what it's worth, while I don't know the situation in Canada, as far
    as I know the U.S. does not levy duty from most countries and
    definitely including Japan until a delivery totals $400. So of course
    the HMV deal is worse.

    Further hints--

    Use the cat # (COAQ-15), the prefix always contains the label name
    unless its a very private release (and they probably wouldn't stock it
    anyway) you don't need to explain further unless you get the number wrong

    There are 2 dealers that you can order from in english manually - in
    other words not through a web interface, you are writing to a person,
    ask them if they can get something specific, etc.

    Comfort, who all my friends buy from and I've met the guy
    http://web.kyoto-inet.or.jp/people/ohkura/

    and

    http://www.mediawars.ne.jp/~mundo/collect/file/t-isao.html
    who many people seem to be happy with though I've not really checked out


    nicholas d.kent

    catch pics and mp3 of my last concert
    http://www.artskool.biz/jem/ndkent/2_27_03_show.html
     
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  4. A perfect example of a VALID reason for piracy --- "YOU CAN"T GET IT OVER HERE"
    (Just for the record - If possible, when possible, where possible I ALWAYS buy
    my CD's and DVD's.) Some label should just make him a better offer...
    One that would actually distribute the recordings in the US on a widespreadscale....

    SACD is doomed....but how else will I hear dark side of the moon in 5.1?
    I was going to order this several times, but I cancelled the order before submitting....
    I figured I will wait to see if it comes to the US via another cheaper route, where I can pay
    only $18-$20 for the disk..... I also would like to have Pictures at an Exhibition,
    or Bermuda Triangle on DVD-A, so maybe I will wait until all 3 are all done...then order...
    -------------------------------------
    Another Similar annoying Scenario --
    I am trying to see a movie right now called "City Of Ghosts" it's a Matt Dillon movie only showing in
    New York or LA... so I have to risk life and limb to go see the movie in anunknown theater, in an
    unknown city, costing $400 or more for hotel and transportation? I will just have to wait until it is
    available on DVD. They wonder why the economy is bad....you can't see what you want to see...
    For instance Bowling for columbine, is only viewable in 1 theater locally, that's in Boston, Ma, over
    40 miles away.....each way...and $30 to park..I will have to wait until that one comes out on DVD as well.
    -------------------------------------
    For those of you who liked Jacob's Ladder or Apocalypse now, I have heard this movie is of the same caliber,
    but with a little less of the plot being defined, and a smaller budget. If you Ever have gotten lost in a nasty city,
    and get nervous or panic, trying to find the place is you are supposed to be at over 3 hours ago....I think this is a similiar
    situation and type of euphoria he is trying to create. Sounds like most people at a 3 day festival or
    concert...All I can think of is one time being woken up at one of these andhearing...where's my tent man???
    ...I can't find my tent....I will let you know if it's good or if it is awful. It got anywhere from 2.5 stars up to 5 stars...
    The proverbial wild goose chase....


    ----- Original Message -----
    From: ndk
    To: isaotomita at yahoogroups.com
    Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 3:37 PM
    Subject: Re: [isaotomita] Planets DVD-A...WHERE???


    HalloweenVince at aol.com wrote:
    >
    > I got mine from hmv.co.jp. The site is in Japanese, but there is an option to
    > view the site in English. (And more of the site comes up in English than
    > amazon.co.jp!)
    >
    > I've used them a few times for Sakamoto, Tomita & Pat Metheny stuff andthey
    > are very efficient and helpful when you email them in English. They're quick
    > also, however that is also their downfall since they FedEx all their overseas
    > parcels out, and this adds quite a lot to the delivery costs, more thannormal
    > postage.
    >

    I'm guessing the whole format must be rather new, and with Sony pushing
    SACD and DTS still floating around retailers probably don't want to overstock.

    That said, I tried to order it from cdjapan.co.jp exactly a month ago
    and they were unable to deliver it, though I did receive another album
    some friends had trouble getting elsewhere. Their inability to deliver
    made me speculate (with no proof) that maybe Dennon stopped selling it
    temporarily in order to repress it??

    So currently I've been waiting for amazon.co.jp to deliver. While their
    site says 10 to 14 days their esitmate once they placed the order seems
    to be at least 3 weeks plus the shipping time, in other words at least a month.

    For what it's worth, while I don't know the situation in Canada, as far
    as I know the U.S. does not levy duty from most countries and
    definitely including Japan until a delivery totals $400. So of course
    the HMV deal is worse.

    Further hints--

    Use the cat # (COAQ-15), the prefix always contains the label name
    unless its a very private release (and they probably wouldn't stock it
    anyway) you don't need to explain further unless you get the number wrong

    There are 2 dealers that you can order from in english manually - in
    other words not through a web interface, you are writing to a person,
    ask them if they can get something specific, etc.

    Comfort, who all my friends buy from and I've met the guy
    http://web.kyoto-inet.or.jp/people/ohkura/

    and

    http://www.mediawars.ne.jp/~mundo/collect/file/t-isao.html
    who many people seem to be happy with though I've not really checked out


    nicholas d.kent

    catch pics and mp3 of my last concert
    http://www.artskool.biz/jem/ndkent/2_27_03_show.html

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  5. >
    > A perfect example of a VALID reason for piracy --- "YOU CAN"T GET IT OVER HERE"
    > (Just for the record - If possible, when possible, where possible I ALWAYS buy
    > my CD's and DVD's.) Some label should just make him a better offer...
    > One that would actually distribute the recordings in the US on a widespread scale....

    That's more than a little spoiled IMHO. The thing has only been out what
    is it, a little over 2 months.

    As for labels, as I've said before Tomita seems to be in a partially
    enviable position that his own orchestral compositions, not his synth
    realizations, are revered in his home country. Witness the replica sheet
    music included in the "Shigeo Nagashima" soundtrack. It's good that he
    has a "new" release of synth music because it really isn't all that
    appreciated in Japan then or now.

    So yeah, what he could use is support like he got from RCA U.S.A. for
    about a decade (before new management there found him only of interest
    as a source of selected back catalog)

    I guess who really ought to hear about it are the companies making DVD-A
    gear for countries outside Japan.

    > SACD is doomed....but how else will I hear dark side of the moon in 5.1?
    > I was going to order this several times, but I cancelled the order before submitting....
    > I figured I will wait to see if it comes to the US via another cheaper route, where I can pay
    > only $18-$20 for the disk.....

    Well okay, but it doesn't seem to really support your arguement one way
    or the other.

    > I also would like to have Pictures at an Exhibition,
    > or Bermuda Triangle on DVD-A, so maybe I will wait until all 3 are all done...then order...

    Someone has to know they are wanted in order to make something like that happen.

    It looks to me that Tomita is doing what seems to be semi-popular these
    days. To remake a previous work still probably owned by a different
    label who perhaps is no longer supportive. I see Mike Oldfield just
    replicated Tubular Bells again. Lots of other artists have. Its all
    about how much labels support and how much they hold back an artist. Not
    everyone wants to package and distribute their own stuff, some only do
    so because they have no choice.

    > -------------------------------------
    > Another Similar annoying Scenario --
    > I am trying to see a movie right now called "City Of Ghosts" it's a Matt Dillon movie only showing in
    > New York or LA... so I have to risk life and limb to go see the movie in an unknown theater, in an
    > unknown city, costing $400 or more for hotel and transportation? I will just have to wait until it is
    > available on DVD. They wonder why the economy is bad....you can't see what you want to see...
    > For instance Bowling for columbine, is only viewable in 1 theater locally, that's in Boston, Ma, over
    > 40 miles away.....each way...and $30 to park..I will have to wait until that one comes out on DVD as well.

    Well thats I guess the bummer of the bad economy. Big industry always
    perfers less choices, more so in a culture that values quarterly earning
    estimates and sometimes fanfares when - gasp - they actually do give
    you some kind of a choice.

    The Japanese music business always claims their very high CD prices are
    a result of the range of available releases. In the big cities and via
    special order it is really a comparatively wide selection.

    I'd like to research the yen's buying power. Back in the CD's in Japan
    actually dropped 25% in cost to match what LPs sold for. On the other
    hand, back then the dollar bought twice as many yen, which probably
    doesn't mean much except to explain why American goods were
    comparatively expensive (though Japanese CDs still cost more then, they
    just really cost a lot more now). So what I'm after is figuring out how
    much high Japanese prices have to do with diminished forign currency
    purchasing power.


    > -------------------------------------
    > . If you Ever have gotten lost in a nasty city,
    > and get nervous or panic, trying to find the place is you are supposed to be at over 3 hours ago....I think this is a similiar
    > situation and type of euphoria he is trying to create.

    global positioning man, lol
     
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  6. Citeren ndk <ndkent at optonline.net>:

    > So currently I've been waiting for amazon.co.jp to deliver. While their
    > site says 10 to 14 days their esitmate once they placed the order seems
    > to be at least 3 weeks plus the shipping time, in other words at least a
    > month.

    I had no problems ordering it through their site.
    The english translation is not that bad (okay not very good but I'm
    not English and even I could understand it).
    I ordered it and I got it a week later. Maybe they are having problems
    now delivering it (maybe it's out of stock as I suspect that there
    aren't many made?)

    Marcel
    http://home.wanadoo.nl/mengels
    mengels at wanadoo.nl

    __________________________________________________________

    http://www.wanadoo.nl/
     
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