Recreation The chicken or the egg?

I find it a bit odd but I always thought that there had to be an explantion for everything; science or not. But I still have my own beliefs.

But anyway, one mystery down, over hundred more to go

 

Nah I think they are wrong lol But hey it is a mega waste of our tax dollars. We don't really want our money going to this do we?

 

Yes, I knew it all along...

 

I heard about this the other night on the Hour. xD

But was it really something that needed investigating? :/

 

That's an evolutionist idea. So it can't be an absolute fact.

 

Bh, nonsense article.
/puts on nerd science hat.

It all depends on what one means by the question. I can see where they are coming from but their logic is incorrect. Either answer is correct depending on the what somebody means by the question.

Chickens evolved from non-chickens through small changes caused by the mixing of male and female DNA or by mutations to the DNA that produced the zygote. These changes and mutations only have an effect at the point where a new zygote is created. That is, two non-chickens mated and the DNA in their new zygote contained the mutation(s) that produced the first true chicken. That one zygote cell divided to produce the first true chicken.

Prior to that first true chicken zygote, there were only non-chickens. The zygote cell is the only place where DNA mutations could produce a new animal. Before chickens evolved(some 8,000 years ago) there were the Red Jungle Fowl which is the creature that created the chicken. This was a type of chicken in itself I suppose. So what came before that etc. was the first chicken born from an egg or was it born life and laid an egg. So the first official "chicken" pecked its way out of an egg laid by a bird that was not-quite-a-chicken. Depending on how you look at it, the wild chicken--came first. Before that and before that etc would lead us to a time before dinosaurs and the true ancestors of chicken did not lay eggs.
How far back must we go, it all depends on what you mean, technically the answer is the chicken if you go all the way back.
Scientists say eggs, evolved more than 1 billion years ago, in the oceans of Earth. When land animals evolved about 250 million years ago, their eggs had a tough covering to retain moisture on dry land. Egg-layers like amphibians, reptiles, and insects flourished. The first "land eggs" pre-dated chickens by about 250,000,000 years.
So "the egg" may be one answer to the old riddle, but here's another, if a little longer: The chicken came after the bird, the bird came after the dinosaur, the dinosaur came after the egg. And the egg came long after the first single-celled bacteria, the prokaryotes, evolved in the oceans, some 3.5 billion years ago.
What answer you take from that is up to you.


/takes off nerd hat.

So, who wants some vodka? \o/

 

WOW...........that was a long lecture lol I still say the chicken came first, you need a chicken to get an egg right? So how can an egg just appear without the chicken.

 

I don't know about you but if anyone could explain in a better way than Tar.Aldarion, it makes sense to me.

 

I don't know about anyone else but please leave your own beliefs out. This is about something explained in science, not something from the Bible or the Quran.

 

Well if you believe in the Bible isnt there a part where it says god created the Animals Which could include a chicken..

 

Yeah it would include the chicken lol its an animal so yeah. (Yes Zanza that is right) So all in all It just proves the chicken came first mwahahahahaha lol but don't foget this is a battle that has been going on forever so were all gonna disagree.

 

Either way if we agree or disagree it's going to come down to what point of view you share and what you accept, just because money was waisted for a bunch of crack pot nerds to figure THIER answer out doesn't mean it's the absolute fact. The chicken or the egg can come either and honestly I wouldn't care about either, all I know is that both are a valid food source and taste pretty damn good with salt and pepper

So wither you believe in evolution, atheism or what ever floats your boat it comes down to what you see on your point of view.

 

Science don't believe in gods law.

One thing though.

At some point I still believe we would have called that first bird a chicken.

Like Columbus. In 1492 he sailed the ocean blue. He is still human even though in 500 years there should have been a small changed in human evolution.

Next thing they will try and figure out is why most things taste like chicken?

 

LOL that would be a BIG waste of money...I mean I could tell them why everything tastes like chicken. But yes I agree with you basher, we are still the same as 500 years ago. But Evoulutionists really don't even have solid answers or proof to there theorys. I mean, this what came first the chicken or the egg thing is something not many people would spend SO much time figuring out, I bet if we asked them to show us how they came about there answer they could not show us.

 

Now this is a debate that may never end

Anyway, now that I think about it, that was a waste of money and time. There could be dozen hundred different possible reasons for something and no one may get it right.

As for humans, yeah, we are the same after hundreds of years and we may stay that way until thousands of years have passed to where there's flying cars and we're going to different planets in the blink of an eye or we could have blown ourselfs up before then.

 

Or the world has already ended lol. Or they actually give us proof that the egg really came first XD