Tomita news from Tokyo

Discussion in 'Tomita' started by baward at blueyonder.co.u, Feb 1, 2003.

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  1. I received this from Atsuko Makita, Tomita's PA in Japan:

    "Mr. Tomita has been busy writing music for Japanese films, and his time
    to complete his book about his career, and also notes for his
    official home page was limited, and the progress was very slow.
    But I hope it would be soon.

    For the moment, Mr. Tomita is concentrating on making pieces for
    DVD Audio. When the release is announced, I will let you know the
    news.

    On Tomita's official website at www.isaotomita.com the page of his
    discography is something. You can listen to the part of
    the music of each album. Try it."

    The DVD audio bit sounds interesting; I do not know what this implies
    but we will keep you informed.

    Ben
     
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  2. > The DVD audio bit sounds interesting; I do not know what this implies
    > but we will keep you informed.
    >
    > Ben

    Hello Ben!

    Thanks for the update.

    DVD Audio affords 5.1 and 7.1 channel sound, which is obviously a natural for
    Mr Tomita. Here is a man who has been experimenting with the capabilities
    of surround sound, and "4 speaker record" technology since the 70s!

    So obviously, the new DVD technology is an entirely perfect match, and
    I can't wait to hear what someone like Tomita will do with access to all
    of those different chanels/speakers. Perhaps he will have completely different
    sound coming out of each?

    I hope that he is greatly enjoying himself!

    Kevin
     
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  3. > On Tomita's official website at www.isaotomita.com the page of his
    > discography is something. You can listen to the part of
    > the music of each album. Try it."

    Clicking on "Sound Cloud", I notice that they still haven't corrected
    "1984 Austlia". Velly entertaining indeed :)

    Mikael Hillborg
    MHC Synthesizers and Effects
    http://www.mhc.se/software/plugins/
     
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  4. Speaking of DVD's...

    There was a documentary on PBS, years ago, about IT's preparations for a
    SoundCloud in Japan.

    Does anyone remember this? Is it available on DVD or VHS?
     
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  5. In a message dated 2/1/2003 3:23:25 PM Eastern Standard Time, zen77 at lumanet.com writes:

    >> The DVD audio bit sounds interesting; I do not know what this implies
    >> but we will keep you informed.
    >>
    >> Ben
    >
    >Hello Ben!
    >
    >Thanks for the update.
    >
    >DVD Audio affords 5.1 and 7.1 channel sound, which is obviously a natural for
    >Mr Tomita. Here is a man who has been experimenting with the capabilities
    >of surround sound, and "4 speaker record" technology since the 70s!
    >
    >So obviously, the new DVD technology is an entirely perfect match, and
    >I can't wait to hear what someone like Tomita will do with access to all
    >of those different chanels/speakers. Perhaps he will have completely different
    >sound coming out of each?
    >
    >I hope that he is greatly enjoying himself!
    >
    >Kevin



    Hi all,
    I have a DVD-audio setup (as well as the competing Sony based format SA-CD). I've been hoping for some Tomita releases in this format. I REALLY wish that the first 4 or 5 RCA albums would be released on DVD-A. Even with those albums' technical shortcomings, I think they would sound spectacular. Some of the other discs I have make for a very impressive listen.

    Now if we could just convince the record companies to stop releasing things like Lynard Skynard (no offense to the fans) and start releasing albums with more.... intricate (?) production. I think there'd be much more to appreciate then.

    Andrew Sanchez
     
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  6. How did you get his "darn" website to work. I
    couldn't.
    --- Mikael Hillborg <mikael at mhc.se> wrote:
    >
    > > On Tomita's official website at www.isaotomita.com
    > the page of his
    > > discography is something. You can listen to the
    > part of
    > > the music of each album. Try it."
    >
    > Clicking on "Sound Cloud", I notice that they still
    > haven't corrected
    > "1984 Austlia". Velly entertaining indeed :)
    >
    > Mikael Hillborg
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    > http://www.mhc.se/software/plugins/
    >
    >
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  7. It should of course be pointed out that DVD Audio is a different (and fledgling and barely surviving by some accounts) format from the well-established DVD Video format, albeit with the capability to have multichannels audio tracks. DVD Audio specific discs can't be played in most DVD Video machines, although you can hear the multichannel audio version of a particular soundtrack, usually in the DVD Audio standard format, Dolby AC-3 a.k.a. Dolby Digital, but as DVD Video playback.

    So this news might be that Tomita is doing ultra-hifi stereo versions of new material, rather than retooling the classic 1970's albums for 6-channel sound. Personally, I'd much rather hear the latter :)

    Ben

    --- In isaotomita at yahoogroups.com, "Ben Ward <baward at b...>" <baward at b...> wrote:
    > I received this from Atsuko Makita, Tomita's PA in Japan:
    >
    > "Mr. Tomita has been busy writing music for Japanese films, and his time
    > to complete his book about his career, and also notes for his
    > official home page was limited, and the progress was very slow.
    > But I hope it would be soon.
    >
    > For the moment, Mr. Tomita is concentrating on making pieces for
    > DVD Audio. When the release is announced, I will let you know the
    > news.
    >
    > On Tomita's official website at www.isaotomita.com the page of his
    > discography is something. You can listen to the part of
    > the music of each album. Try it."
    >
    > The DVD audio bit sounds interesting; I do not know what this implies
    > but we will keep you informed.
    >
    > Ben
     
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  8. Doesn't it work? I don't know if it requires Internet Explorer maybe. I'm using IE 6.0.
    You must have Flash, that's for sure, don't know if it requires the latest Flash maybe.

    Nice site, but full of misspellings, some of them quite fun, like Austlia and Offcial.
    They've uploaded lots of samples and it was a pleasure to listen to Bach Fantazy, which
    I haven't heard before. I'm still trying to figure out the easiest way to get it. Might
    also get that orchestral work he released a couple of years ago, the name was in Japanese
    only. It sounded great. And you can listen to the CD with orchestral stuff he recorded
    in the 60s. They sounded really interesting too. I haven't heard Daphne et Cloe before
    and it sounded almost as good as my favourite Tomita album; Dawn Chorus.

    Cheers
    Mikael Hillborg
    MHC Synthesizers and Effects
    http://www.mhc.se/software/plugins/


    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: Wade Gordon [mailto:mindvoyager1 at yahoo.com]
    > Sent: den 2 februari 2003 19:51
    > To: isaotomita at yahoogroups.com
    > Subject: RE: [isaotomita] Tomita news from Tokyo
    >
    >
    > How did you get his "darn" website to work. I
    > couldn't.
    > --- Mikael Hillborg <mikael at mhc.se> wrote:
    > >
    > > > On Tomita's official website at www.isaotomita.com
    > > the page of his
    > > > discography is something. You can listen to the
    > > part of
    > > > the music of each album. Try it."
    > >
    > > Clicking on "Sound Cloud", I notice that they still
    > > haven't corrected
    > > "1984 Austlia". Velly entertaining indeed :)
     
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  9. Be aware of any pop up stop programs on your PC.
    I have Pop-Up stopper installed and had to disable it before i could visit
    the site.

    Erwin.

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Wade Gordon" <mindvoyager1 at yahoo.com>
    To: <isaotomita at yahoogroups.com>
    Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 7:51 PM
    Subject: RE: [isaotomita] Tomita news from Tokyo


    > How did you get his "darn" website to work. I
    > couldn't.
    > --- Mikael Hillborg <mikael at mhc.se> wrote:
    > >
    > > > On Tomita's official website at www.isaotomita.com
    > > the page of his
    > > > discography is something. You can listen to the
    > > part of
    > > > the music of each album. Try it."
    > >
    > > Clicking on "Sound Cloud", I notice that they still
    > > haven't corrected
    > > "1984 Austlia". Velly entertaining indeed :)
    > >
    > > Mikael Hillborg
    > > MHC Synthesizers and Effects
    > > http://www.mhc.se/software/plugins/
    > >
    > >
    > >
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  11. At 02:11 PM 2/2/03, you wrote:
    >In a message dated 2/2/2003 2:10:52 PM Eastern Standard Time, mikael at mhc.se
    >writes:
    >
    >> it was a pleasure to listen to Bach Fantazy, which
    >> I haven't heard before. I'm still trying to figure out the easiest way to
    >> get it.
    >
    >http://www.mediawars.ne.jp/~mundo/collect/file/t-isao.html

    I've ordered from Mundo before and had zero problems. The discs arrived
    in a couple of weeks from the time I ordered them from the US.
     
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  12. Does anybody know what is that last cd in his discography section and where
    can I
    purchase it? It sounds quite interesting....

    Tomi
     
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  13. tomi.malm at yle.fi wrote:
    >
    > Does anybody know what is that last cd in his discography section and where
    > can I
    > purchase it? It sounds quite interesting....
    >
    > Tomi
    >

    I'm near certain its the soundtrack to "Sennen-no-Koi" (cat# COCQ-83572)


    I notice he has a DVD Audio of what I presume is the same material
    slated for march 21 release "Sennen no Koi - Hikaru Genji Monogatari",
    its 3500 yen which is a little more than the average of a current
    regular CD (more like 3000 yen with most of Tomita's back catalog
    actually at 2500 yen). My Japanese is really bad, Genji is a name so I'd
    assume it relates to his other work surrounding the classic story.
    "Hirau" I think is wind. "Monogatari" definitely means "tale" as in
    story. "Sennen no Koi" I think means "Love of a Thousand Years"??
    Correct me please! cat # will be COAQ-15 -- this info is from here:
    http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/detailview.html?KEY=COAQ-15
    but they aren't offereing the non-DVD-A at the moment.

    Anyway armed with tha cat#, anywhere that will special order Japanese
    CDs should be able to get it. I've found sometimes Japanese soundtracks
    slip under the radar of places that list CDs by composer.

    Armed with the cat# somewhere that special order japanese CDs should be
    able to get it to you. (like I guess Comfort or Mundo or your local
    Kinikuniya or Asahiya if you have one but not some place that doesn't
    offer special orders)

    nick
    http://www.artskool.biz/jem/ndkent/
     
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  14. Everything loads then freezes.

    Wade
    --- Mikael Hillborg <mikael at mhc.se> wrote:
    > Doesn't it work? I don't know if it requires
    > Internet Explorer maybe. I'm using IE 6.0.
    > You must have Flash, that's for sure, don't know if
    > it requires the latest Flash maybe.
    >
    > Nice site, but full of misspellings, some of them
    > quite fun, like Austlia and Offcial.
    > They've uploaded lots of samples and it was a
    > pleasure to listen to Bach Fantazy, which
    > I haven't heard before. I'm still trying to figure
    > out the easiest way to get it. Might
    > also get that orchestral work he released a couple
    > of years ago, the name was in Japanese
    > only. It sounded great. And you can listen to the CD
    > with orchestral stuff he recorded
    > in the 60s. They sounded really interesting too. I
    > haven't heard Daphne et Cloe before
    > and it sounded almost as good as my favourite Tomita
    > album; Dawn Chorus.
    >
    > Cheers
    > Mikael Hillborg
    > MHC Synthesizers and Effects
    > http://www.mhc.se/software/plugins/
    >
    >
    > > -----Original Message-----
    > > From: Wade Gordon [mailto:mindvoyager1 at yahoo.com]
    > > Sent: den 2 februari 2003 19:51
    > > To: isaotomita at yahoogroups.com
    > > Subject: RE: [isaotomita] Tomita news from Tokyo
    > >
    > >
    > > How did you get his "darn" website to work. I
    > > couldn't.
    > > --- Mikael Hillborg <mikael at mhc.se> wrote:
    > > >
    > > > > On Tomita's official website at
    > www.isaotomita.com
    > > > the page of his
    > > > > discography is something. You can listen to
    > the
    > > > part of
    > > > > the music of each album. Try it."
    > > >
    > > > Clicking on "Sound Cloud", I notice that they
    > still
    > > > haven't corrected
    > > > "1984 Austlia". Velly entertaining indeed :)
    >
    >
    > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
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    >
    >
    >
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    >


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  15. This is Excellent News Ben -
    Too bad it won't be available in DTS-CD which is more compatible with
    the current surround sound systems. I was going to try to transfer some
    recordings of his to this format - I have the capabilities to do the encoding,
    and mastering......but it appears he's already got that underway!!!


    ----- Original Message -----
    From: Ben Ward <baward at blueyonder.co.uk>
    To: isaotomita at yahoogroups.com
    Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 1:51 PM
    Subject: [isaotomita] Re: Tomita news from Tokyo


    It should of course be pointed out that DVD Audio is a different (and fledgling and barely surviving by some accounts) format from the well-established DVD Video format, albeit with the capability to have multichannels audio tracks. DVD Audio specific discs can't be played in most DVD Video machines, although you can hear the multichannel audio version of a particular soundtrack, usually in the DVD Audio standard format, Dolby AC-3 a.k.a. Dolby Digital, but as DVD Video playback.

    So this news might be that Tomita is doing ultra-hifi stereo versions of new material, rather than retooling the classic 1970's albums for 6-channelsound. Personally, I'd much rather hear the latter :)

    Ben

    --- In isaotomita at yahoogroups.com, "Ben Ward <baward at b...>" <baward at b...>wrote:
    > I received this from Atsuko Makita, Tomita's PA in Japan:
    >
    > "Mr. Tomita has been busy writing music for Japanese films, and his time
    > to complete his book about his career, and also notes for his
    > official home page was limited, and the progress was very slow.
    > But I hope it would be soon.
    >
    > For the moment, Mr. Tomita is concentrating on making pieces for
    > DVD Audio. When the release is announced, I will let you know the
    > news.
    >
    > On Tomita's official website at www.isaotomita.com the page of his
    > discography is something. You can listen to the part of
    > the music of each album. Try it."
    >
    > The DVD audio bit sounds interesting; I do not know what this implies
    > but we will keep you informed.
    >
    > Ben


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  16. > From: Wade Gordon [mailto:mindvoyager1 at yahoo.com]
    > Sent: den 3 februari 2003 16:16
    > To: isaotomita at yahoogroups.com
    > Subject: RE: [isaotomita] Tomita news from Tokyo
    >
    >
    > Everything loads then freezes.
    >
    > Wade

    As someone suggested, check if you have a popup-killer running. And the site's
    extremely Flash heavy (100% ?), so you might want to check which Flash version
    you have in your browser and possibly upgrade to the latest. Don't know which one
    that is, maybe someone else here knows...

    Mikael Hillborg
    MHC Synthesizers and Effects
    http://www.mhc.se/software/plugins/
     
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  17. Hello,
    In regards to the DVD-Audio format compatibilty, this is where this format
    shines (imo). Most if not all the discs are compatible with all DVD-Video
    players.

    In addition to the high resolution tracks (accessed only by DVD-Audio
    players), DVD-A discs have the audio tracks also encoded in Dolby Digital
    which any DVD-Video player can access. Although, this is a compressed audio
    format, I'm surprised at how good it sounds. Of course, a great thing is that
    the Dolby Digital tracks are also in 5.1 channel surround sound like the high
    resolution tracks.

    One thing that you can not access while playing a DVD-Audio disc on a
    DVD-Video player is (ironically) the video informantion. Some DVD-A discs
    have music videos, but mostly just lyrics, band bios, and/or still photos.

    Andrew Sanchez


    In a message dated 2/3/03 9:37:12 AM Central Standard Time,
    andy_despres at hotmail.com writes:

    > This is Excellent News Ben -
    > Too bad it won't be available in DTS-CD which is more compatible with
    > the current surround sound systems. I was going to try to transfer some
    > recordings of his to this format - I have the capabilities to do the
    > encoding,
    > and mastering......but it appears he's already got that underway!!!
    >
     
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  18. >
    > As someone suggested, check if you have a popup-killer running. And the site's
    > extremely Flash heavy (100% ?), so you might want to check which Flash version
    > you have in your browser and possibly upgrade to the latest. Don't know which one
    > that is, maybe someone else here knows...
    >


    Actually it worked for me on the weekend and the past but not now. I
    might guess they are fixing something and took it offline.

    I see that as one of the definite pitfalls of fancy media like that, a
    regular person can't easily get in there and change a typo or add
    something.


    As for DTS, its a lossy-compressed format while DVD-A proper uses much
    higher fidelity and is uncompressed (but then often throws in AC3 for
    compatibility). DTS is an interesting format in that there is a not too
    expensive encoder for the PC and it can use CD media for audio only
    applications. So as for the DIY-er everything is at an advantage, like
    many people already have the playback system, but its much less so from
    the perspective a commercial release of ultra high quality music only.
    And yes I'll agree that it sounds a little better than AC3

    On the other hand not everyone, like on most PCs has the decoder... they
    usually don't have the Dolby Digital AC3 decoder going out surround but
    at least have the stereo decoder.

    I am a bit worried that even with a DTS decoder now being pretty much
    standard in a lot of gear, I'm only seeing the big Hollywood DVDs come
    out in it, I'm not seeing any increase in media. But both DTS and DVD-A
    seem still to only be tiny blips with the cool new-ish media formats
    world. I think Soundblaster just did DVD-A playback on their new card so
    that should help (not for authoring).

    And SACD from Sony just messes things up more plus the authoring seems
    proprietary. FYI Ryuichi Sakamoto tried a SACD and added some non-CD
    tracks but I don't think he tried again and Sony Music decided not to
    release a lot of what they did with the CD compatible layer.

    nick
     
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  19. I find the discography brower Flash animation almost unusably quick and
    consequently really quite irritating. Why is there no text-only equivalent for
    people with better things to do? Too passe I guess... ;-)
     
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  20. In a message dated 2/3/2003 12:30:23 PM Eastern Standard Time,
    baward at blueyonder.co.uk writes:

    > I find the discography brower Flash animation almost unusably quick and
    > consequently really quite irritating. Why is there no text-only equivalent
    > for people with better things to do? Too passe I guess... ;-)

    It is one of the most annoying web sites I have encountered, and it really
    points up the growing problem on the net of sites designed to please the
    designer, as opposed to sites designed to be _used_. While one can make
    allowances for artistic expression in an artist's site, I was put off by this
    design very early and I have no desire to go back to isaotomita.com. (Another
    interesting note about usability issues: although the splash page for the
    site identifies it as "isaotomita.com", if you enter that in your browser's
    address line, you get a page that just says "OK". You have to include the
    "www." portion as well.)

    The site did inspire me to start an article, "Warning Signs that You Have a
    Bad Web Site." And it inspires me to say, thank heaven for legible and usable
    fan sites.
     
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