Trigun Trigun Serious anime or just comedic!

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  1. KaMeKaZi

    KaMeKaZi Insanity$%#

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    I watched the first ep of trigun and was wondering if there is any real story to this anime besides a total clutz who has 60 billion dollars on his head and gets into all kinds of trouble...

    Its seems cool but so far its not overly apealing to me to have a clutz of sorts be the main hero of the story..

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  2. Bloodberry

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    it starts out comidic...but shifts towards the serious without losing the light edge to it.n it builds up enough character info without it being all deep to make it too serious...one thing amusing...vash takes everything rem told him very literaly...lol(when you finish the show, you'll actually notice it...and that's not a spoiler...it's his personality...aside from donuts and the cat...)

    gonna stop now...lol just enjoy the ride and learn to follow wolfwood...for he is good.*^-^*
     
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  3. alkhoon

    alkhoon .: G.Heyer is my life :.

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    *agrees with BloodBerry*

    it picks up after like ...ummm 5 -6 eps... then it becomes serious and gets more into the story...

    i hope u like it ... its a really nice anime :)
     
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  4. Nic Wolfwood

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    Trigun the comedic and the conflict

    Trigun is an interesting series. I'd say the most important thing is that you enjoy the setting of an anime in a western background. If you've ever seen the film Yojimbo by Kurosawa, I would say it has a similar feel in some ways (and obviously not in others). I personally enjoy and savour the comedic moments in the first few episodes and feel that both comedy and seriousness are played out excellently. It's a shame that Trigun seems to introduce the seriousness as if by some force it were compelled to. I believe as do many others, that this is in no small part due to it's post-evangelion nature. While I am a massive fan of evangelion (it's my favourite series of all time for a start) I am sorry to see the apparently crude influence that modern anime script and story writers have taken from the eva approach. Maybe I'm wrong, it could always be the state of internal change within Japan, from economic superpower to being in huge recession creating a neccessity for profunidty, but I find it harder to believe the latter than the former. Having said that I'm no arrogant orge and please correct me if you feel I'm wrong on this. I have observed this in other series such as Bubblegum Crisis 2040 and I hear Cowboy Behbop is similar (though I haven't personally seen it yet...)
    But all in all Trigun is excellent, with a clever and funny script and some interesting plot twists and well as the refreshing backdrop.
     
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    KaMeKaZi Insanity$%#

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    Re: Trigun the comedic and the conflict

    Im not sure what you mean by a neccessity for profanity because in Bebop there is lil to none..

    Im a big fan of wrestren movies.. ever since i use to watch them with my grandfather. Thats why I was so atracted to Bebop because of its sci-fi/westren aproach. but im not sure if ill be able to get into Triggun.. but ill give it a shot!

    KaMe
     
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  6. Bloodberry

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    if ya like westerns and sci fi stuff, you'll like. cause it's really a good combo of the 2. the comedy keeps it from diving into the plot and dragging you thru whether you like it or not...kinda keeps it real to coin a bad phrase. it just really drew me into it...i love comedy and seriousness...so this was nice for me. and well, gun fights are a good thing.8^-^*
     
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  7. Nic Wolfwood

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    Profanity?

    Kamekazi, profundity means being profound (showing great knowledge and being serious), not using profanity! Trigun has no profanity in it, not that I can remember.
     
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  8. KaMeKaZi

    KaMeKaZi Insanity$%#

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    Sorry Wolfwood thought you had a typo.,

    But I watch anime because unlike North american cartoons they are serious and have a serious story with comedy mixed it..

    where north american cartoons have gone down the craper. They have no story nothing realy.. there prety boring..


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  9. Nic Wolfwood

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    Trigun the Cool

    I agree with you for the main part about anime Kamekazi, if you want a cool blend of cleverness and just plain comedy you should check out FLCL, it's awesome.
    But I think there are cartoons being made in North America that offer a blend of intelligence and stylishness. The trio of Samurai Jack, Dexter's Laboratory and Powerpuff Girls demonstrate that there are some very worthwhile cartoons being made. (Not to mention early Ren & Stimpy)
    I mean, the powerpuff girls in one episode parodies Akira Kurosawa's 'Rashomon', the operatic episode of Dexter's Lab and the directoral effects of Samurai Jack are simply stunning.
    Even anime has it's staple diet of rubbish. If you were to take a serious look at it, Dragonball Z is completely tedious, monster of the week stuff, though I watch sometimes just because I like the style of anime. But some anime, (cough*shadow skill*cough) proves that anime can be poorly animated with a barely credible storyline.
    So while I think that generally anime is currently a superior genre(I mean look at Princess Mononoke for the most stunning animation ever -with a mature and intelligent storyline to boot!)
    that there are still turkeys out there, but I that's natural I guess
     
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  10. KaMeKaZi

    KaMeKaZi Insanity$%#

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    Well Here is North Americas Major problem when it comes to cartoons.. there are only 2 cartoon i can think of that are for adults. South Park and the Simpsons..

    Now anime is not only geard for kids its also geard for adult.. Thats why Japan in my opinion Rules the Cartoon industry.

    Now Dexters lax and that can be funny the animation is not what i consider very good..


    I mean what happend to cartoons like G.I.Joe, Heman ect....

    But on the other hand north america rules the Computer Animation cartoon industry.. but it seems of late that there has been fewer such shows.. Reboot was a master peice..


    KaME
     
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  11. Nic Wolfwood

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    Reboot

    Ahh Reboot, it was truly a masterpiece. I agree with you when it comes to Digital Animation, with witty scripts and great animation, Toy Story proved popular among my while family. However, you're also right unfortunately about the current crop of digitally animated cartoons. Don't even get me started on Cubix, the evil one. I don't think that much of Mr. Steel either! My favourite cartoon growing up was probably Mysterious Cities of Gold, a Jap/France production, along with Dogtanian, another Jap/France production. They rocked, as well as Willy Fog, the Moomins etc... So many of these programmes I knew before I heard of anime (I started getting into it at 10, with Akira, though I didn't have a clue what it meant at that time! I am now 19.), that it's surprising to hear just how many of them originated from Japan. Luckily the Anime Encyclopedia By Helen Macarthy and Jonathan Clements is an excellent reference point and one which I urge all anime fans to by. It's so easy to just pick it up and browse for hours!
     
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  12. KaMeKaZi

    KaMeKaZi Insanity$%#

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    Never heard of those Cartoons you see groing up.. Me i watched Adtro boy, Transformer, Care bars, Rainbow Bright (hey what else do 4 year olds watch) Heman, Thunder Cats and so on... then when my older brother got into anime i soon falowed..

    I hope theys still contunie the new reboot story they put out last fall

    KaMe
     
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    aww dogtanion was just frikin sweet! me being a sad loner:shy:, used 2 watch it at least 1ce a week. as 4 thundercats, that was amazing! i cant remeber that much of it but it was 1 of the major influences in my life....i guess the other should hav been school but hey! i was in 2 anime since i was about 3/4ish. it took me 9 years 2 actually realise wat it was tho lol. but now im the biggest anime fan (aka phsyco) in my class, and i still think that the stuff bk then were sum of the best cartoons ever made...k ill shut up 4 a while now...:sweat: ahe!
     
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  14. Vash

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    Vash isn't a clutz and never was. It's just a front in order to draw as little heat as possible. Even in the first episode where most of his behaviour is pretty slapstick there are hints of just how competent he actually is. For instance, the bit where he grabs the back of a bad guy's gun and uses it to draw a chibi picture of himself on a rock in bulletholes. You also get a glimpse of how serious minded he is in the glare he gives the chief bad guy after he deliberately injures one of his own flunkies.

    The original manga is a brilliant mixture of the tragic and the comic and the anime reflects that. I think the anime leans more to the comic than the manga does, and take into account that the first few episodes, amongst the most lighthearted, were written (by Kuroda I think his name is, I'm at work and can't check!) especially for the anime and only contain certain elements from the original.

    Trigun is also a very good action series, particularly in the manga. I keep hearing rumours that they're going to translate the manga so maybe a wider audience will be able to enjoy it soon.
     
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