Recreation Well, there goes the planet...

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  1. Reisti Skalchaste

    Reisti Skalchaste New Member

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    John Kerry has failed. He has failed the American people, and he has failed the world. George W. Bush is president of the USA once again. John Kerry conceded early this morning, meaning GWB has been re-elected.

    *gratuitous 20-minute bout of swearing removed*

    Anyway, what are your opinions on this unfortunate turn of events? What do you people think will happen in the next four years of his presidency?

    Obviously, I am deeply opposed to GWB, even though I'm not an American citizen. I was hoping against hope that Kerry would pull through, and win, but it was in vain.
     
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  2. sweetasuka

    sweetasuka Ahh Ice-Cream!

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    we are all screwed is all I have to say :( :mad:
     
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  3. Kain

    Kain Plaything of Doom

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    Kerry still should of had a go at it, there was still the chance that he may have won. Even if he had lost one of the major states (Ohio i believe) there were still a few more that could have gone his way. I really don't know what he was thinking when he threw in the towel already. I'm really sure there are going to be a lot of angry people that are going to be very p***ed off about this. And i'm not really happy about it either.
     
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  4. Kaiyon

    Kaiyon Grim Reaper

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    Goodbye earth....I'll miss you. Bush now has four more years to toy around with his army, look for Osama (In *explited material* Iraq), fix the (poor) economy and i quote
    "Console the families of the ones lost in Iraq" <-----(?)(I dont know,he said it!)
    -George W. Bush <------(i dont like him)
    The man does not know where he is going. Also, i am dissapointed in Kerry for his recent action. The *explited material* didnt have the *explited material* to run face to face to a *explited material..........* of a President. He does not deserve to be president if he would ever give up. I guess the only guy whom i can trust is Ralph *explited material* Nader. You know what....scratch that. I only trust "da govenah of caleeforna, Ahnuld!" <----(The governor of California, Arnold!)
     
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  5. Reisti Skalchaste

    Reisti Skalchaste New Member

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    To be honest, I never particularly liked Kerry. I don't think he'd make the best president. However, he is a much better choice than *bleep* George *bleep* Bush. The moron will likely start World War III, thinking himself to be the 'savior' of the planet. But he will not be Earth's deliverance. He will be Earth's undoing.
     
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  6. sweetasuka

    sweetasuka Ahh Ice-Cream!

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    AGREED, I SO AGREE. but there is not much more I can say so I won't harp on the fact Kerry lost anymore, But I will forever stay Democrat! I hope the next four years goes by quick, hey you never know, maybe we wont be here, and if we are I doubt we will be as comfy as we are now. . . :confused: Living in a world where you don't feel safe, truly is sad
     
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  7. Zanza

    Zanza .Net-ing & PHP-ing~*
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    First of all, I am positive that the votes have been played with. I mean, so far, I've seen so many people who hate Bush, yet the diffrence in votes still managed to be little. I really don't believe this :)

    Besides, in the news, it says that more than 90% of muslim American people voted for Kerry in a state (I forgot which) and they were more than 3000. The same goes to another state, but it was 85%.

    Anyway, I am expecting to see more terrorisim happening and more wars comming soon.. stay tuned to the world today!!
     
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  8. Dilandau

    Dilandau Highly Disturbed

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    I am... deeply disappointed that us Americans are stuck with four more years of the Shrub. ~_~

    It's strange. I think I've spoken with maybe a half-dozen Bush supporters, compared with dozens upon dozens of Americans who voted for Kerry. I'm not one to say "I didn't win, so it must have been a rigged match!" - but I'll admit that I'm suspicious. The Bush administration doesn't have a good reputation of honesty.

    What concerns me most is not that we have a Republican president... It's Bush's beliefs, his priorities, his injection of his religion into government, the kinds of laws and amendments he's tried to pass with regard to environmental issues and gay rights, and the image he projects in his foreign policy. Four more years of Bush is scary.

    It's not so much that I supported Kerry, but that I'd rather see just about ANYONE in the White House besides Bush or someone of comparable behavior.

    I want Clinton back. :/ If the worst thing a politician ever does during his term is get a blowjob from his mistress, I'd say he should be installed in office for life.
     
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  9. Nephilim_X

    Nephilim_X New Member

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    Both candidates sucked; this isn't the end of the world; no real major shifts in white house policy in about 50 years regardless of which party is in office, blah blah blah.

    Zanza, you realise 3000 votes is nothing? At all? Besides, the people you hear a lot from are complaining about Bush. They are the squeaky wheels. The people who liked him wouldn't have a reason to complain.

    Kain, it was mathematically impossible for Kerry to win if Ohio didn't go his way.


    Last vent, I'm sick of people swearing party loyalty. Why you would vote "because of party" I don't know; you should be examining each candidates stances on the issues and completely ignoring the D or R next to their name.

    I was vaguely hoping for Kerry to win but I don't view either as good. End of story.
     
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  10. Dilandau

    Dilandau Highly Disturbed

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    That's very true. Though I'm registered as a Democrat, it wouldn't stop me from voting for a Republican if what s/he had to say on issues was closest to the way I felt about them.

    Blind loyalty is a bad thing just about any way you look at it, honestly.

    Regardless, though, I do feel that having Bush in office for another term is a very bad thing. The man has shady motives, favors the rich, and brings too much of his religion into his behavior as president.
     
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  11. sweetasuka

    sweetasuka Ahh Ice-Cream!

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    I could have not said it better myself, I love Clinton and he was a GREAT president *my fav*. I also like Roosevelt, Lincoln, and Kennedy. :D But Bush...umm can you say least favorite, because if so hes my least favorite. The people who voted for him becasue they say he's the one who got us in the mess so he can get us out, well the thing is he wont get us out, hes only gonna make it worse, or even impossible to get out of being in trouble. . . scary stuff really, I don't feel safe anymore :(
     
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  12. Dilandau

    Dilandau Highly Disturbed

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    Agreed. It's like asking the fox to guard the henhouse, and then once he's eaten all the chickens, saying, "Well, let's give him another night in there so he can keep the eggs warm."

    e_e;

    It's not so much that I'm against the war, just that the possible motives behind it kind of disturb me. I mean, the entire basis of us going to war was because the American people were told there were weapons of mass destruction - I don't understand how people have managed to ignore the fact that NONE were ever found. But I don't mean to rant on old issues, that won't help anything.

    Another thing that concerns me is the way Bush is making Americans look to the rest of the world. Has anyone else seen some of the headlines of foreign news articles about the election? @_@ "Oops - They Did It Again" springs to mind, of the ones mentioned in a Yahoo news article I saw. I can't even begin to say how much anti-American sentiment I've seen from Britons and Australians online, and I can't imagine how much more I'd see if I was literate in a few more languages. That scares me more than the idea of terrorism or war ever have, because we'll be living with this stigma of being war-mongering, greedy, self-righteous idiots for years after the actual war is over and Bush is out of office.

    Personally, I don't want Bush's bad international image rubbed off on me. I didn't vote for him. >_>
     
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  13. Nephilim_X

    Nephilim_X New Member

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    America had that image in the worlds eyes long before Bush.
     
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  14. Reisti Skalchaste

    Reisti Skalchaste New Member

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    True, but Bush made it worse. Bush took advantage of his people by declaring war at a time when he could get away with anything. I realize that he couldn't have just sat there and done nothing after 9/11, but war was not necessary. His efforts to eliminate terrorism are backfiring, and he doesn't seem to realize it. I don't know what goes on in that thick skull of his, but, suffice to say, I don't like it.

    Bush doesn't seem to have a grasp of the word 'subtlety.' He barges in with 'his' army, and demands that things be done a certain way, and messes up the lives of so many people, even after they've suffered their entire lives anyway, and he still doesn't realize how wrong he is in what he does.

    His type of negotiation reminds me of that movie, "The Texas Chainsaw Massacre" or whatever it was.
     
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  15. Nephilim_X

    Nephilim_X New Member

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    How wasn't war necessary? Al Qaeda certainly wasn't going to drop in for a spot of tea and discuss their feelings politely now, were they?

    If they didn't think Afghanistan was going to get creamed in response for attacking a civilian target, they were dreaming.
     
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  16. Dilandau

    Dilandau Highly Disturbed

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    Actually, given the increase in publicized anti-American sentiment that the war has created, I would imagine they wanted that. I think both Bush and the terrorists are getting exactly what they wanted out of this war. Bush is getting increased power (not to mention a second term!) and more wealth for his oil buddies, and the war has acted as a distraction where certain other issues were concerned, such as his environmental policies. The terrorists are galvanizing support against America and getting a lot more attention than they ever were before. For every terrorist who's arrested or killed, how many more do you think will fill his place? Nobody's going to ever win a so-called "war on terror."

    I'd agree that I think the war was inevitable, and in some ways necessary. But it was rushed, and I don't like the way it's been conducted.

    Not to mention all this bullsh*t that flies from time to time about how you HAVE to support the war, and you HAVE to support Bush, or you're somehow anti-American.

    Oh well. I guess the lesson we should all take from this is that there are many, many stupid people in the world. But I knew that long before this mess. XD
     
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  17. Nephilim_X

    Nephilim_X New Member

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    Anti-American sentiment from the war in Afghanistan? Maybe from the people who got toasted. Any other nation completely understood why this was going on.

    (note that I am solely referring to the war on Afghanistan, not Iraq)
     
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  18. Jedimdo

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    Anyway, would be there much difference if Kerry had been elected? Many of the US' errors and *horrors* weren't done by Bush. They need a lot of work to get rid of their bad image.

    I personally don't like Bush. He has forgotten the rest of the world, even USA's allies. Kerry was, uh, the only who could win the presidence instead of Bush, so many of Bush's mistakes wouldn't be done again. However, in each democratic goverment, citizens have the responsability of anything their leader does.

    What would happen? Obviously 'war on terror' will continue and all it's terrible consecuences. I can see more terrorism, the US turning apart to the rest of the world and nothing of social work or economic solutions.
     
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  19. jakotsu chan

    jakotsu chan Nevermore!

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    Personaly I'm sad that Bush won. I never realy liked either canidates, but I would prefer Kerry over Bush. I never realy wanted the war to start. I knew that something had to be done to stop what happened since 9/11 but doesnt war lead to most problems? So many people died in 9/11, but now that weve started the war, more people are dieing, leaving their familys behind, sad. Plus the fact that half of Iraq says they like the new change while the other half say they hate it. The U.S. seems to think that they are the top of the chart, that they can fix all problems, we run so blindly through everything that we barely seem to think of the consequences that can come in the future. See what Bush has done; were in a whole mess, not knowing the outcome of which could come. Thats why I was hoping that Kerry could pull through and make a change. Sure it wouldnt be big, but just a slight change to see what somebody else would do in a time of crisis. Sadly I'm not old enough to vote, but if it was I would vote for Kerry.
     
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  20. Iya

    Iya HIP ATTACK!

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    WOW! So basically eveyone here hate Bush?
    We did a vote at our school and Bush had about 230 votes and Kerry had 35.
    I personally like Bush. So do most of the people in my class.
    It's probably because we're all republicans.
    In one of the debates, Kerry said "I have a plan" 16 times.
    He's the butt of all our jokes at school.
    I heard that 75% of the voters for Kerry just voted for him because they didn't like Bush and 25% of the voters for Bush voted for him because they didn't like Kerry.
    So since Bush won, lots of people are upset.
     
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