Japanese Word order...?

The word order in japanese isn't exacly my best point. Now, i'm wondering on how to say...as i've heard akane say "Nani yo anta wa?!", but shouldn't it be more like "Anta wa nani yo?!"?
So...let's say "Nani unmei anata wa?", or must it be like "Anata no unmei wa nani da?", or is both ok?

I must know :sweat:

 

The second sounds more correct to me. For "what is your destiny/fortune" (am I understanding unmei correctly?) I think it's safest to literally say, "As for your destiny (in particular), what is it?" - "Anata no unmei wa, nani desu ka?" Using da instead of desu ka might be all right with the right inflection, as long as your relationship with the person allows you to use direct forms.

 

desu = is, polite
da = is, formal
ka = question particle, can sometimes be omitted.

Ah yes, i mistyped too. It's supposed to be "nani unmei anta no?"
Meaning, "what is your destiny?"
The second is also what i've learned...but it seems this can be broken.

 

ok, normally the standard is:

subject ha direct object wo verb desu

this however can be changed when using informal speech.

when u said: "Nani yo, anta wa" it means "what are you?" literally. but when u say "anta wa nani yo" it literally means "you are what?".

but when u say "anta no umei ha nan desu ka?" it doenst literally also mean " unmei ha nan desu ka, anta no?" it has the same tone, but only use whichever can get your mesage across easier.

gosh, am i making any sense at all?! ;_;

 

Uhhh yeah...but the last was a little foggy.

But basically, i can change the order like that in informal speech?

 

While I'm at it...what's the diffrence between demo and datte?
Same with domo and arigatou.

 

This is what I learned in my Japanese class in regards to the doumo/arigatou question.

arigatou by itself is a plain way of saying thank you. It's fine among friends and people who are lower than you on the social ladder, but using this plain form with people higher than you (teachers, for example) is not polite.

doumo by itself is polite. You can say it to people who are higher than you on the social ladder and they won't be offended. It is equal and equivilant to doumo arigatou.

doumo arigatou is a standard, polite way of saying thank you.

arigatou gozaimasu is another standard, polite way of saying thank you. This is the one I use with my sensei.

doumo arigatou gozaimasu is a super-polite way of saying thank you. Very good when the person you're speaking to is higher than you in the social ladder, or when you want to show honor and respect to the person you're talking to.

~Shadrach Anki

 

Wow ok! That's really nice to know!
Anyway, i was wondering this too. Let's say something like queen of beuty or something similar. Now, the word "kirei" is a na-adjective and as thus must add "na/ni" after it.
But if i were to wish to use "no" after it, then how would one say that?

Kindof like, "kirei no kimyou?"
"Kirei na kimyou" doesn't imply the same meaning (yes, i know i chose this :sweat: but i did it with purpose)

 

Just as a note.... Using 'no' after 'Kirei' doesn't work gramatically. See, Kirei, along with a few other words in Japanese are part of a group called 'Descriptive Nouns' or 'na nominals' depending on who you ask. They're nouns that act like Adjectives in Japanese, so you don't conjugate them like adjectives.
<Lecture notes>
The 'no' particle in japanese connects nouns together in the context of ownership or belonging.
</Lecture notes>
Uhh, I don't have time to continue this now, but that's a note for those interested

-UK

 

That I have been told...
Yet, I don't know how to really make it. Unless it's a real adjective like "utsukushii."

 

Is it possible to say like "korosu anta" in casual speech, too? I think i've heard it...
I mean, in formal, it'd be "anta o korosu."

 

???????

you suck balls!!!!!

 

haha...hmm well, another thing i noticed is that even in formal speech, they say like: nan desu ka sore?
Shouldn't it be like sore wa nan desu ka?