Debate Celibacy?

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  1. Mordeth

    Mordeth Mordeth Vult!

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    it isn't about being critical, if they're not compatible.. they're just not compatible. no matter how much sex either of them has had before. it does happen *shrug*

    thankfully, not too many people wait till marriage nowadays so not too many people have to find out this way.



    there are risks of STD and pregnancies when you do not take proper precations. if you don't take proper precautions.. you don't really have much cause to complain when you do get an std. *shrug*

    how do you view it between say. cattle? or dolphins? or any other creature on the earth that does it?

    :rollears:
     
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  2. That guy!

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    That's kind of strange.. Maybe it's their personalities/culture/values that affect their sexual compatibility then. But, I'm still leaning more towards learning.. a person I know has never had sugar before in his life and one day he just tried some and had a pretty huge reaction to it(he was bouncing off the walls). Now for someone who has had a lot of sugar in their life it would take a much longer time for them to react to it. And the same goes with drugs also, the more you take of it the more tolerant you become and with time you'll need more and more to get the desired effect.

    Ya, that's true too. But, still those pictures I saw in sociology of sex just scared the hell out of me *shudders* It could just be that I have a phobia. You have a much smaller chance of contracting one if you stay a virgin.


    Ya, but other animals procreate with their own relatives too, eh?

    Errr, maybe I should have expained that better. I had people pick on me in high school because I decided to stay a virgin and I've had quite a few arguments with people this year in university. It seems almost like it's the norm for people in our society now. I think I'm just kind of proud to be able to keep myself from saying "you can't beat them, so just join them." And controlling myself from joining the majority of my peers. *shrugs*

    Another thing though.. if someone I know has had sex I'm not going to judge them for that, nor would I force my opinions on them. Who am I to judge anyways?
     
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  3. Dante

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    Just as some humans are still doing and all have done years and yars in the past since God-only-knows-when. ;P
     
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  4. Mordeth

    Mordeth Mordeth Vult!

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    my apologies if I seemed rude, I just watched the goth ep of south park so the "non-conformist" bit got to me :p

    mm, alot of my friends used to question me on it but they gave up after a while and I never really got insulted for it.. and if I do.. **** it it's my choice, I'm not going to feel ashamed over something I've thought about and chosen .. that'd just be silly :)

    and it is somewhat the norm on society now.. but really the only reason it' hasn't been the norm up until now is because of the restrictive actions of the churches regards sex. people do seem to be getting a little carried away though, and parents of the sex-starved generations are unable to relate to their children so they have difficulty talking to them about it.
     
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  5. Dilandau

    Dilandau Highly Disturbed

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    Well, it's true that if both partners have waited until marriage to have sex, they have no prior experience. However, this doesn't mean that they don't both have preconceived notions about what a good sexual experience is, and the ideals of one may be vastly different from the other's. I don't know a single person who claims to have never fantasized about or considered what would be an enjoyable sexual experience for them. I've never had sex, but I know there are a few scenarios that really turn me off - and what if I went into a marriage with someone I thought I could share my life with, only to discover that they were turned off by the things I most wanted to do in the bedroom? Like it or not, sensuality and sexuality are integral parts of most (not all, but most) marriages.

    Of course, I pity anyone who marries a person that they can't or don't have open, receptive, constructive communication with. Ideally, both partners should already have an idea of whether or not they're sexually compatible, based on shared values and preferences, and on any experiences with foreplay. Still, wouldn't it be a rude surprise if the sight of you naked completely wilted your spouse's libido on the wedding night? I say it's better to have everything out in the open already, before you commit to marriage.

    Still, if you're confident that you and your partner can be happy together regardless, that's all good. ^^

    True. On the other hand, you also have a smaller chance of being hit by a car if you never cross the street... I suppose I just don't see any reason to be scared off by the "if's." I know I'm responsible and would demand using protection, and I'm damned well not going to have sex with someone I don't trust. *shrug*

    Well, that's silly... Why is it that people are so bent on singling others out? And you can't win, either. If a guy isn't having sex as often as he can, people assume he "can't get any." If a girl has sex before marriage, she's "loose." e_e Egh.

    But yes, it is becoming the societal norm to have premarital sex.

    That's certainly true. Popular culture isn't like it was fifty years ago - I've had more than one discussion with my mother regarding whether or not the prevalence of sex in the media is appropriate.
     
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    Saiyan ChiChi New Member

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    I agree that we are living in a sex starved culture. People are having sex at younger ages these days and a lot of them have not been well educated on protection, birth control and/or the risks of STDs. Sometimes they dont even know anything about the person they slept with. Also there are a lot of singers/entertainers that young people idolize who dress like strippers and sex objects.
     
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  7. Dr. Nick Rivera

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    I get called gay all the time because of this and similar things(like I don't look at porn: I must be a homosexual!). I really hate people like that...
     
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  8. Dilandau

    Dilandau Highly Disturbed

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    That's exactly my point - it's getting very mainstream to be open, even obnoxiously blatant, with one's sex life. That's especially true for guys. I suppose that while different sexualities and lifestyles are becoming more widely accepted, it's actually getting tougher to remain celibate. It's beginning to get this connotation that there must be something "wrong" with you if you haven't started dating or showing an interest in sex by a certain age.

    Of course, the next time someone implies that you're gay because you don't look at porn, you might ask them why they feel such a need to put their own interest in it on display... People can be so insecure.
     
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