Philosophy do your actions effect your chances in the after life?

It is so that the topic question assumed the existence of the afterlife and the existence of the chances in the afterlife, but to make a connection from action to these chances and to the afterlife requires us to think of a way to show that the existence of the chances in the afterlife are connected to our actions somehow in order for us to make meaning of the topic question such that not to assume or guess everything to just a list of opinions because in discussions we are to speak together about the topic and to examine the terms in question.

Preferably, we are to reach some reasonable conclusion in any discussion.

 

Perferably yes, but depending on the topic at hand and the diversety of a persons beliefs then sometimes you may not be able to reach a conlusion, weither the person is just stuborn or refuses to accept an alternative to something they've believed in most of their life is something that just has to be accepted in the conversation.

I think that it is fully plausable for your actions in life to affect your chances in an afterlife. If your afterlife is not decided by what kind of life that you lived then how else should you be jugded? It would seem to be the best way to judge people to me.

 

And like I've said a hundred times already, THERE IS NO WAY WE CAN HAVE THIS DISCUSSION RATIONALLY. We don't KNOW if there's an afterlife, and we don't know how the afterlife is governed. Therefore, we can do nothing but state our opinions on it.

 

Calm down, please. There are many things we do not know a posteriori(this is what you are inferring?), nor how those things work. But, this is not a valid reason for us to not discuss about these things.

 

Then, let us reach some compromised conclusion to this discussion if possible. We'll give a little and we'll take a little. What do we say to that?

So, we should number or name to possible chances there are in the afterlife first. Then, we should ask why we have to be judged at all in the afterlife, how the judgment will take place or continue, and what or who is the judge. What next? :sad:

 

Discussion is not the proper term for what we'd have. If anything we'd all post what we think and that'd be the end of it because we can't prove anything.

 

All right. I'll try to prove the existence of the afterlife then.

All life and existence are equal to each other.
All death is neither life nor existence.
Afterlife is life or existence, after death.
All death ends life. All life gives life.
Death exists if and only if life exists.

There ends one life to give another life so that afterlife exists. :bleed:

 

Afterlife is continued life after death, of the same spirit, usually on a different level of existence (that is, heaven, hell, etc).

Only as far as material components go.

...No. If everything dies, death wins. Death is just a cessation of bodily processes, it's not some entity that plans things out.

What if everything dies?


As I've said before, you're using only the loosest concept of the word 'afterlife' in this debate. Afterlife is considered a spiritual thing, not a material thing.

 

Ooo, italicized too?

How do we know that the afterlife is continued life after death? So precise, so sure of that are we?

Such things are observable and definite so far in time and space, but are we suggesting quietly that there are components which are not material too?

Are we speaking of spirits now? That is, a fancied variable.

This is not a game of losing and of winning. Death ends life and that is all.

Without life, what will become of death? Death exists not then? Is that not true?

Then, everything dies and death exists not any longer but the afterlife will come along with the afterdeath.

Could that be possible?

Debate? What, where? This is a discussion.

Afterlife is a spiritual thing? How do we know about it then (since we are material things, ourselves)? :sad:

 

...Yes, yes I am precise, because I'm trying to tell you what the author of this thread was asking us to discuss.

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=afterlife

2 entries found for afterlife.
af·ter·life ( P ) Pronunciation Key (ftr-lf)
n.
A life or existence believed to follow death.
The part of one's life that follows a particular event.


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afterlife

n : life after death [syn: hereafter]

...Given that only spiritual components are involved in the sort of afterlife this discussion is meant for...

You are, terrible at english. I don't know if it was your intention to do so but you seem to have gotten the idea that afterlife means "what happens after you die". This is incorrect. In this discussion especially it is about spiritual repurcussions, NOT what happens to your material components.

Does death exist now? Death isn't something that exists. Death is something that happens.

I'm not sure what you're trying to express.

This has arguably become a debate over the proper definition of afterlife. I don't know what you think it is, but in english afterlife refers to what happens to a soul after death. It has nothing to do with your body.

First definition from the dictionary.

Congratulations, now you're repeating a point I mentioned earlier.

 

Dost my eyes deceive me or the word continued is nowhere there?

Are you and the topic presenter one and the same?

Spiritual? What spiritual repercussions? It is not in the topic question. Then, let us make it one about that. How about it? What about it then?

The act or condition (of being dead), or death, does exist as the act or condition (of being alive), life, does exist. Is it not so?

Death and Life have fulfilled their mutual purpose, now afterdeath and afterlife comes.

I say nothing about the body, just energy and stuff.

Are our dictionaries different?

What is your earlier point exactly? Then, we are share the same opinions in this discussion? How cool is that?

[For the sake of making shorter and more meaningful posts, I will sacrifice by saying that you are totally right in every way possible, and I am totally wrong and I should be ignored by you entirely. You say I am terrible with English? Then, I am terrible with English. Let there be happiness in the forum world.]

 

"Follows" takes the place of "continued".

For that matter, are you?

"Do your actions affect your chances in the after life?"

...It's discussing the spiritual plane. Like it or not "the" would indicate he means heaven, hell, etc.

I already said we can't have a real discussion about the spiritual bit, only post opinions and be done with it.

I'm still not sure what you're trying to say here.

That's included in material components.

I guess so, since I'm looking at dictionary.com

That we can't have a real discussion on the spiritual aspect and only in the most loose sense of the term afterlife do you have any guaranteed influence by dying in a specific area.

It'd be a lot cooler if you stopped insisting that your broken english interpretation is superior to the interpretation of EVERYONE ELSE in this thread.

Sweet.

 

Is it possible that there is a spiritual side to the afterlife? Hmmm.
Quite a creative idea, but surely the physical side to the afterlife is evident.

But, actions are physical and chances are either physical or spiritual while the afterlife is physical or spiritual. Our chances in the afterlife are affected by our actions, if somehow actions affect these chances.

It would be most reasonable to ask ourselves to list the possible chances there are in the afterlife so that we may consider further.

 

There is only one possible action that affects the after life. Well more like the only action that leads to it. And that is death...( ovbiously)

Now, how can something physically affect you in something spiritual. In my opinion the after would be spiritual just for the simple fact that you travel from umm...one life to another. Chances are that we wont even know if we are in the after life. Its kinda alot like being born....its starting life all over again.

 

Maybe, but who knows. The actions we take before dying might forever stay a mystery to us, but if you want to know what everyone else believes, then I'm one of everyone else.

I believe that there is a heaven and hell, but if we die, we'll stay dead untill Armageddon comes. After that we'll go waiting to see if we go to heaven and then our actions we made (while living) will judge if we will go to heaven or hell.

I also believe that if there is no heaven or hell, we'll reincarnate forever.

Those are my points of view.