Debate games being blamed by suicides and homicides!

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  1. pardal

    pardal Crimson Moon

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    who here agrees that games are responsible for some deaths? does this society really believes that games are responsable for human errors that being undeclared, people tend to blame video-games?
    just to know your opinions on this matter.
     
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  2. Nephilim_X

    Nephilim_X New Member

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    This has been covered in the debate forums a lot; but to answer your question, no, games are not responsible for those sorts of things. If they were, why are so many of us still here?
     
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  3. Jedimdo

    Jedimdo New Member

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    What you have heard is the voice of a very noisy minor group

    BTW, I've 'killed' thousands, just think yourself...
     
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  4. Teddz

    Teddz Sexy Swedish Love ♥

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    Depends. Some people have a tendency to "live" into the games, i.e. the Manhunt game incident in UK, where a kid killed another kid by using a rock.

    But still, it's just a very noisy minor group, as Jedimdo said.

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  5. monument

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    This incident?...

    ...

    ...oh, so, you were talking about the media f-up incident.
     
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  6. TatsuroN

    TatsuroN New Member

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    I think there is popular perception of games "corrupting" youth perpetrated by the media. This is a cultural phenomenon - scare the parents = sell more newspapers imho. The movie "The Beach" used games to convey that the main character was going "nuts". Think this is just a reflection what's out there - in the public mindset! :eek:
     
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  7. SaberJ2X

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    I've always played violent games, mortal kombat... Street fighters... doom... quake... GTA, driver, carmageddon... basically anything that awards you for violence, and I have grown up to be a nice fellow... a bit shy though. my girlfriend also loves violent games, relieves stress
     
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  8. Kaiyon

    Kaiyon Grim Reaper

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    Everybody grows up with violent games every once in a while. The fact you immitate a videogame like Manhunt or Halo or GTA, means there's just something wrong with you, or you dont know better. That why the videogames have a rating! Videogames dont want to make you kill. Sheesh!


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  9. Sebastien

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    If a video game makes a person want to kill, then it's the parents' responsibility, and not the game's. If the child would do such a thing, then it should be apparent that they have a serious problem. It's the parents' responsibility to make sure the children don't go near these kinds of games if that's the case.
     
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  10. Kaiyon

    Kaiyon Grim Reaper

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    My point exactly! If a parent allows his child a Mature game, and he's like 10. Well...the kid doesent know better. And if he's old enough....then theres something wrong with the poor person. The videogame doesent come out and say "HEY YOU! YOU KNOW WHAT WOULD BE FUN! KILLING, LIKE WE DO HERE!"
    instead what happens is the kid says to himself "HEY YOU! YOU KNOW WHAT WOULD BE FUN! KILLING, LIKE I DO HERE!"


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  11. pardal

    pardal Crimson Moon

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    it's the education that a parent gives to their children that will make the changes in the kid's life, there are some cases where the education doesn't have nothing to do with it but those are rare cases. i have a good liberty and always had it cause my mom always gave me the freeadom and also the responsability to do the things i want, but she also teached to me that everything as it's consequences and that i would have to live with them to the rest of my life... i've never smoked, i've never druged my self and i rarely drink.
    i've played really violent games sense i was "very little" but i knew the consequences of doing those same things on the real life cause my mom always explained to me what would happen. my mom always teached to me everything, some parents are afraid of telling their young children the real things in life but i think their wrong... they should explain it in soft words what should happen to them if they should do some things in life...
     
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  12. Seishin

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    too true indeed. rare cases where this happens. i've only heard it like once or twice.
     
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  13. Amarhyllis

    Amarhyllis New Member

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    I too believe that to be true.
    Parents should take the responsibility for what their children play and what they watch on television. They can't buy them everything they want and then turn a blind eye to what it might do to them. If a kid doesn't know any better and is at a young age, buying them those games just to hear them shut up screaming isn't going to be good for their tiny little brains.
    And for older people who do the same thing, they just need therapy or something. They will end up ruining it for all of us.
     
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  14. Kagome's Arrow

    Kagome's Arrow Princess of Unicorns

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    Well if you're referring to direct deaths, then games certainly instigate the condoning of virtual death. But it isn't as if Mario leaps off the screen with his plunger outstretched and *****slaps you into oblivion. Even indirectly, I don't think video games should be regarded as weapons of mass destruction. (Weapons of mass distraction, maybe, but we're discussing whether games trigger death, not obesity). It's not as if you participate in a rousing game of Kirby and are suddenly, inexplicably inclined to "accidently" drop your PS2 into your sister's bathtub. Video games are described accurately within their title...GAMES. I mean you can watch twenty minutes of Baby Loony Tunes and have witnessed virtually the same ammount of violence, if not at the same caliber. But game ratings *do* have a purpose, even if they're not always effective against inattentive parents, and in those circumstances, the fault lies entirely in the oblivious parent, not the game.
     
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  15. Nightmare

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    True on the fact of parents of buying a Mature game and give it to a ten year old heck lets lower that to six,seven,eight,and nine year olds.The truth of the matter is that parents don't reconize the impact of the game can have on a kid but man how can you exactly blame inanimant object a disk to cause the death of someone you love or a complete stranger is plain ignorance jeesh honasltly thats pathetic things like this just tick me off :mad:
     
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  16. Hitohiro

    Hitohiro Angel of Wind

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    It would seem to me that parents are oblivious to the fact that these games have ratings.

    E-For everyone
    M-Mature


    Give a 9 or 10 year old either of the second kid, he'll think its cool and wanna try it. These games have these things for a reason, to keep the younger audiences away. And also, some kids just aren't mature enough for these games. And if your 16+ and you play one of these games and have the sudden urge to wanna blow somebody up, stab with a knife, shoot the heck out of someone, PLEASE SEEK MEDICAL HELP.
     
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  17. Kaiyon

    Kaiyon Grim Reaper

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    Like said before, games dont encourage this kind of behabiour on a person. Its what goes on in his life that makes them act that way.


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  18. Prosper

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    It is true that video games, especially those violent games have certain influences on people, on kids as well as on adults.

    Nonetheless, parents do play a part on educating children, on the level of exposure they are supposed to set a limit to.

    However, parents are role models that children do look up, if children spend a lot of time with adults who play violent games, talk and behave violently in the real life, then the children would have difficulities in learning the proper manners in life.

    I also agree that society always find reasons to explain certain phenomenons, and violent games are one source, since parents dont spend enough time with their children due to work, or other things that call for their attention.

    Violent games does have impact by itself.

    It is said by some psychologists that such games have the hynothesized effect if the games are played for too long, or some creators (like virus-hackers) have the intentions to 'rule' the world, by running such influences.
    Thats why the legal system had started to ban some games, or rated certain games to be played at certain age, very much like porn. Because different ages of children have different perceptions of viewing violence.
     
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  19. Nephilim_X

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    -_-

    Games provide stress relief more than anything else; if the effects were as intense as it's hyped up to be you'd see way more game related murders.
     
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  20. Prosper

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    Neph, What you say is true.

    There are lotsa of games regarding about killing and murdering. That one that chops off the heads, the other one that chops off the legs. You have been exposed to games before, you should know.

    You are not a child from 6 - 10, it is difficult for you to see how they perceive the games as to me.

    In fact, neither do i know. Because i havent seen a kid kills another in my country yet. All i read about are just psychological reasons and yes, it does sound to me and i accept them.
     
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