Debate games being blamed by suicides and homicides!

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  1. SteamedRice

    SteamedRice New Member

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    Amused

    People are always overlooking or maybe afraid to blame themselves for whatever wrong doing they may have done.. Always pointing fingers over here or over there, when you should be pointing it towards yourself.
     
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  2. Reisti Skalchaste

    Reisti Skalchaste New Member

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    That's right. A lot of people can't accept that they are responsible for something in it's entirety. So they blame it on whatever's handy.

    I, on the other hand, if I commited a crime, knowingly, I would turn myself in, and, if it went to a trial, I would say, right at the start, "I did it, please give me the sentence you think is necessary." (Of course, if I did it against my will, for whatever reason, I would also say that, and explain why)
     
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  3. Nephilim_X

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    I used to be! :D I remember playing Doom when I was about 9; I really had no problem at all with it. Then there was Mortal Kombat and all that...
     
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  4. Rokuemon

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    People like to find someting to blame for things they dont understand, and they will blame somthing they dont understand. but basicaly the kind of person who is goin 2 go postal will do it whatever they are into.

    Reminds me of this quote

    "I wrote a song about dental floss but did anyone's teeth get cleaner?"
    -- Frank Zappa, Senate Hearing on "Porn Rock", 1985, in response to Tipper
    Gore's allegations that music incites people towards deviant behavior, or
    influences their behavior in general.

    People do bad things inspired by religion, 4 example, Does that make religion bad?

    Nope, its down to the person.
     
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  5. KaYasha

    KaYasha I'm Boelak Yrubron

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    The simple answer is no not, directly. It just depends on the way the person percives the information. Dilyon, a boy I have known since he was a baby, is now 9 and he has played GTA, really I never thought twice about him playing it. Maybe I shouldn't have, but I have never seen him go out, steal a car and shoot the driver after playing the game.

    Yes, to an extent games or movies can give you idea's or thoughts abotu doing something. Usually, on younger adiuce. An other example, when I was about 5 or 6 I remember watching the Little Rasicals, and after watching them drink soap, and burp out bubbles I thought wouldn't that be cool, and I put soap in the crock pot, and yet no bubles were burped. Then I got in trouble and haven't since put soap in food.

    I don't think people who make games, say to them selfs. I think I will have a murder game in hope that kids will go out and blow each other up. As said before, the game makers think, this isn't a game that younger kids should play because they make take this information in the wrong way, so they have labels put on them.

    If a kid does take out an action he sees in a game and is of an older age group, then there is other issues that deal with what they did, maybe a medical disorder, or they wanted something to blame? In any case, if games made people kill people, then we would have a mob of murders running around killing people everywhere, I would doubt they would even have games on the shelfs then.
     
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  6. Prosper

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    Then i really have to ask a question.

    Have you guys know of people who play too much games until they neglect work, studies and all .. to a state of psychological illnesses?

    How about viruses? Why do people want to create viruses?

    For your info, there are abnormal kids around, they perceive things differently. What you deem as normal, might not be so to them. It takes a lot of patience and acceptance as well.
     
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  7. -Vicious-

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    ive never heard of a game being blamed for sucide or homicide. i remember hearing about 2 punks shooting out the tire of a motorcycle and blaming it on vice city. but i dont think the guy died.
     
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  8. Bloodberry

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    the ones i knew that did that stuff, along with general hacking in the first place, were mostly just bored or did it for the laugh. some do it for the challenge.
    personally, that really isn't video gamem behavior, because the way they do it in games generally isn't even remotely close to how it would really be done. movies are closer as they aren't telling you "press X to hack into the terminal".

    and i've also known a couple people that pretty much do just dissapear for games. know what? it's not normal and it isn't healthy either.

    and i really don't see the point in your post relating to video games being blamed for violent crimes. it's called obsession. it's like asking why that guy had to stalk and rape/kill someone. other things are a factor in your life in the cases of obsessions. if you play games sooo much that you can't do anything else, not even work or classes, you probably have something going on that you're escaping from. but that's getting more into psycology.

    oh wait...that's what this whole thing boils down to.

    and for school shotting examples, people are blaming, what was it? doom for those ones. or counterstrike. was a fps either way, blamed for Columbine. which just so you know, counts as a homicide.
     
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  9. Nightmare

    Nightmare Chaos Rules

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    People see games as an escape on punishment when they renact it..People think games are the reason to blame for crimes commited but games cannot be blamed for an indivduels actions.
     
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  10. sylverdragonfly

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    Yup, and one more time. Video games are not responsible for the human will, might as well hang up all forms of entertainment if that were the case. I think people are responsible for their own actions, I know people who’ve had not so wonderful childhoods, but that didn’t shape them into the people they are. We control ourselves, some simply have more will power, some simply want someplace to put the blame. So they transfer that blame to video games, music, and movies just to justify the actions taken. It’s been said I’m sure, these are my own feelings on the subject and doubtless the excuses hardly hold up, it’s stupid….everybody needs something to blame.
     
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  11. SaberJ2X

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    I'm an example that violent video games don't rot yer minds and makes you red-eye monsters that go in an armored van hitting and squashing people in the "friendly neighborhood" or go human hunting on top of the sears tower...

    I find they are a way of releasing every day stress in a peaceful, in the real world, way...

    lock yourself in a room and imagine your opponent is the X guy that you hate and make him suffer ^^ and make him 9843732985 fatalities
     
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  12. Nightmare

    Nightmare Chaos Rules

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    I agree fully on that one everytime my school ticks me off which is everyday cause there hypocrits i just lock myself in my room and turn halo 2 on and just start killen things an hour after that my moods back to the top of happiness :D
     
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  13. Seishin

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    Let's just put it this way, if you mimic any game, there's definetly something wrong with you (except cosplay....cosplay is fine.....but only when done right!). I would like to know what is it that goes throught those people's minds when they are pretending to be something they are not, and certanly cannot, and should not be done. I guess that just some people do not read that little size 1 italic sing that says "Do not attempt".......schmucks......

    -Seishin
     
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  14. Hitohiro

    Hitohiro Angel of Wind

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    Games do help relive stress. This is true. I come home, put in vice city and just have fun, i have the cheats so its better too. and its true, the game is not the onloy thing that inspires this kind of behavior. seishin, you want to know what these people are thinking. they are thinking, its ok, it wont really hurt somebody. these people have played games for so long they mix reality with games. they think, "oh, he'll just come back and i can do it again". enh, wrong. pending on how your raised, which im raised quite well, games are a stress reliever. as for other people, well, we'll never know what its like for them.
     
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  15. pardal

    pardal Crimson Moon

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    i imagine my self shooting people i don't like often with my deserteagle magnum gun blowing them to smitherins or picking up my psg-1 or my t-76 longbow and shooting them from distance! but i rely on games like sof2 or DFBHD for those things!!! i would never be able to do it for real, and i can't imagine what those people that do it are thinking. for me, they just don't tick good! :D
     
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  16. yakamashi

    yakamashi New Member

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    i strongly do not think that suicides and homicides have anything to do with playing video games. that person just has a problem with friends, family, or just themselves, etc and should get some treatment.

    lol. i admit that i sometimes (okay, ALWAYS) act like a character in a manga, (like me and my friends act like ninjas. mostly me though. we go up to various people, get in a fighting stance, and go 'ha!' it's really cool. heck, we even try to be stealthy, etc with all that taijutsu, ninjutsu things while wearing a hitaiate. and we're at the end of 8th grade...) but never the killings, etc...

    that didn't really help.
     
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  17. Vicious

    Vicious Revolution...Revolucion!

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    I dont think that games should be blamed but there is some form of influence I believe. I mean...thats the best form of training now right? Simulation...
    I think thats why they use wooden human like targets rather than just the old bulls eye one in shooting training...simulation makes a person more comfortable about doing something. So yea...I believe there is some influence but shouldnt entirely be blamed.
     
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  18. DesertSheep

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    Violence in video games should not be blamed for violence in real life. Video games don't kill people... people kill people. I don't even think that videogames are a factor in influencing individuals impressions. I could sit down and play ghost recon 2 all night long, but that doesn't mean I would go and shoot my family. It's a sad thing when society has to use video games as a scapegoat. I think it's because people can blame such things that they commit the crimes.
     
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