Video Games How realistic can a game become?

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  1. silverline

    silverline New Member

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    When you look back to the first computergames, you just laugh at them, they look stupid, they look ugly and they are so simple. When you look at the latest games, you think, mwah it looks okay or ah this is an awesome game but its not wonderfull. But when you look at the revolution that happened, I mean in a short time games have developed from 2 dimensional to 3 dimensiol and it looks almost realistic. So if it developes this quick, I mean how will it look in about 20 years? Or perhaps in 10? I am not that updated about all the latest games ofcourse so I dont have much a clue about what they are busy with right now, but they must be thinking about how they can improve even better!

    And ofcourse thats not all, I mean you can now play games almost everywhere with almost everything!

    So whats just on my mind, as the name of this topic, how realistic CAN a game become? I guess you cant really tell because you sort of dont have an idea how fast the technology goes, or perhaps if it stops... But what do you guess? Will there be holograms like in Yugi Oh and other sorts series/movies, or will it more be a mind game? :eek:
     
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  2. Teddz

    Teddz Sexy Swedish Love ♥

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    Heh. That's an intresting topic really.

    It really depends on what type of game it is. Some games can be done really realistic, others can have a hard time to be realistic. It's often the First person shooters, sport games and car games that have tendency to be realistic. Then again, we have to question the definition of "realism".

    As for as the technology goes, the better and realistic the games will be. Our current "technology" can be maxed, and some games (GT4) have photorealism, which means that the graphics are like photographs. The computer graphics are updating by everyday, and it's amazing how some graphics on the computer can be so real (Half Life 2 water graphics maxed with a Radeon X800)

    Right now, the future awaits with big expectations in likes of the Xbox 360, Playstation 3 and Nintendo Revolution. Who knows, maybe the future holds a interesting technology which lets yourself particpate in the game, as in your own body getting blasted by "fake" monsters.

    - Teddz
     
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  3. Shen

    Shen Indefinately away

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    Realism can sacrifice enjoyment. True, games nowadays are increasingly more realistic and you'd expect it to improve as years progress. They could potentially make it as near to real life as possible... but realism doesn't always impress.

    Take for example, in a first person shooter... one of the genres where realism has really taken off in recent years. If you apply a real-life war scenario in a fps, you'd find yourself limping across half a map to get to where you need to go if you are shot in the foot... or even worse, shot and the arm and become weapon disabled. It will eventually and quickly become infuriating.

    Realism has a limit in video games... that's all that can be said.

    - Shen
     
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  4. silverline

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    Yes ofcourse thats what makes it so special, games are ofcourse someones imagination and beyond that. Mostly its the creative and fantasy with a touch of realism that does the trick. I heard about a controller for the new Generation PS console that you can feel. Feel cold/heat, feel something like sand paper! So it will get to the point where you can literaly feel the envirnment. Maybe a console won't need controllers. Although I think not, I don't want something probing my mind.
     
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    I always thought a great idea for a game would be some kind of first-person, virtual reality... uh... thing...:D (first-person to the player) where you can do just about ANYTHING, from slaying medieval monsters to building your own city, in a multiplayer environment. In addition, it wouldn't require hand-held controllers either. It would have specialized gloves/shoes/etc, and since something like that would probably need a controlled environment for the player, players would have to visit something similar to today's Internet Cafe's to use.
     
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  6. Seishin

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    The only best Graphics i've seens are:

    Splinter Cell:Chaos Theory-PC with Radon X800. The water in that game looks like OMGWTF! unbelivable.

    Conker:Live and Reloaded-Best X-Box graphics...ever.

    Some PS3 games are looking even better than our current games, let's hope and see what games come to soon...

    -Seishin
     
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  7. Hacker

    Hacker ~Richie Rich~

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    there is an online RPG just like .hack//sign.....only they don't have the little helmet thingies. but you make your own anime charater...and it's like real life...only anime. and everything is in Chibi form @_@ lol.
     
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  8. Nephilim_X

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    Maybe you do. I however am well aware that good gameplay and graphics do not necessarily go hand in hand.

    That having been said, I'm sure we could attain near photorealistic quality in games in well under 20 years; hopefully this won't be used in all games.
     
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  9. Hacker

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    real life in games is kinda scary...and if got more advanced..could break the barrier between reality and fantasy. lets never hope for anything to advanced^_^ *plays pong* lol.
     
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  10. luvweaver

    luvweaver Ad Jesum per Mariam

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    Physics...

    There's something called physics processors. They're very recent, so they won't be introduced in the PS3. We'll have to wait for the next gen of games.

    A physics processor emulates physics in a realistic and very accurate way. For example, the dust coming from an explosion is usually scripted. With a PPU, you only say which material the walls etc. are made from, and the processor does the rest. It's like "matrix" but in a game :p

    So with this you could have much more realistic trees, environment, wind, etc. Or how about this, in a game you bomb a bridge on which the enemy will go thru... depending on where you set up the explosives, the bridge could blow up differently, etc.

    So, this would add much more realism to games.
     
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  11. ZakoSoldier

    ZakoSoldier Zeon Commander

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    That can get uber real but that doesnt mean i will buy them i prefer the weirder games like Katamari Damacy that has no reality and some other weird games.

    Viva la wierdness
     
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  12. Seishin

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    That's true, but, it would add a lot of memory to the game now wouldn't it? They'd need to come up with a new format for games. The regular PS2 or X-Box style isn't just gonna cut it by then, and it'd take sp real power to make that work now, wouldn't it?

    But that's for the future, and they're probably once again going to surpass the expectations on everyone, whomever it is "they" are....

    -Seishin
     
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  13. Nephilim_X

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    He did just say not even the PS3 would have them...

    Seriously, the PPU is like the 3D Accelerator of this phase in gaming. God, who else remembers when 3D cards were seperate from 2D cards?

    Edit: As far as storage for games goes I see no reason why we couldn't keep using DVD (and its extended family) for at least a while; there's no shame in multiple discs. If CD can manage it, then so can DVD (and really, DVDs have dropped in price to be pretty much equal to CDs).
     
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  14. SaberJ2X

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    I do, I owned voodoo2 cards... SLI'ed ;)
     
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  15. Nephilim_X

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    SLI?! You lucky bugger; I only had the one 8 meg Creative Labs Voodoo 2. :( It still served me well for years on end.

    And remember the voodoo 1 with, what, 4 megs of memory? 3DFX, may you rest in peace.
     
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  16. SoraStrife

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    are you serious?

    I want these so called "game designers" or whatever you call them to stop making too cartoonish games, i think they can do a lot better and make these characters a lot more real life man! we are in the future and they still make this cheap games and really crapy plots and way too cartoon.. :anger: ... I need much more realistic games to play... :dizzy:
     
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  17. Reisti Skalchaste

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    Graphics are the least important feature of a game. Obviously, they have some importance, but they're less important than gameplay, storyline, sound, and the rest.

    SoraStrife, you want games that look realistic, not cartoony? Do you feel the same way about the rest of your entertainment? Yes? Then why do you watch anime?

    As for story, there are plenty of good games with excellent storylines. You just need a few names, I think. They don't have the newest graphics, but it seems lately that you have to get either "good" (meaning more "realistic") graphics, or good story. A lot of games these days, (especially from a certain company that has something to do with regular rectangles (Ie squares)) seem to have sacrificed story and gameplay for nothing but eye candy.

    For example. Final Fantasy X-2. I have to say I agree with Neph's name for it: Pretty Princess Dress-me-up. (or whatever) from my knowledge of it, it's nothing *but* eye-candy, with a generic boring story and awful, awful gameplay that makes it impossible to do anything but focus on the game.

    "Oh, rapid-fire L2, hold X, and alternate Square and Circle to have all of your attcks synchronize" or whatever. It's stupid.

    Personally, I like a game with old-fashioned graphics. Back in the days of 2d, things always looked... well, smoother, I guess. Granted, the first examples of 3d graphics, (FFVII, Battle Arena Toshinden 1, etc) were considerably lower quality than they are now, but I still find myself preferring the good old-fashioned 2d sprites and backgrounds.

    Warsong 2's graphics are FAR superior to Xenosaga's, and Seiken Densetsu 3 is way better looking than Final Fantasy X, to me.
     
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  18. SaberJ2X

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    I remember the bloody letters logo of the Voodoo1 and the 4MB announced pretty big on the box

    my voodoo was a Quantum3D X-24
     
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  19. Jedimdo

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    Once upon a time, around a decade ago, a kid, whose name I don't want to remember, got his first videogame and said: "OMG! This looks so realistic!". Trully, we tend to think we are in the top of development, anything before was just lame. Right now we are like that kid who was impressed by the realism of that time's technology.

    So, what I'm saying? Of course games will become much more realistic in the future. So much that I can't imagine how.

    But...
    That's right. I, palying both old and new games, still like those low-res spritish videogame girls. Riesz...
     
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  20. Nephilim_X

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    No. We are in the present. Furthermore, some "cartoony" games are actually *gasp* FUN.
     
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