Recreation Is it at all possible for someone to block a bullet with a sword?

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  1. Angel from hell

    Angel from hell New Member

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    I suppose on this occasion im glad i always get nomiated for awards but never win them
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  2. MamiyaOtaru

    MamiyaOtaru President Bushman

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    I realy doubt it, but I do wonder.. Time has a way of slowing down sometimes.

    I can recall getting shot in the stomach once while playing paintball. Normally you can't really see those things flying around, but when a dude popped around the corner and fired at me, I watched the ball as it flew into my stomach in slow mo. Note that this did not enable me to dodge it however :D

    While I'm sure it was going a bit slower than a bullet, bullets aren't instantaneous either. I have fired tracer rounds out of an AR-15 (civilian version of M-4, which is the carbine version of the M-16) and you can watch as they zip (very fast) towards their target (though it's easier to see when someone else is firing and you are off to the side).

    Whether it is possible to follow its path if it's coming at you, or even more unlikely, react to it somehow, is a different story. Especially if it isn't a tracer round :D

    I find it hard to rule things out though, after some guy came to Billings and fired an arrow behind his back, and hit a thrown baby aspirin. That's ridiculous. Maybe I'll scan the newspaper pics sometime..
     
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  3. seraphinx

    seraphinx Oy, Artista!

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    I always thought it WAS possible, like how some people mentioned it just depends on how weak/small the shot fired is, and how thick/strong the sword is. What about a really hard sword made of titanium, and half an inch thick? Plus a big/wide sword (even just half the size of Guts sword from the anime Berserk) would provide more coverage so you don't even need reflexes.
     
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  4. Novus

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    Yeah, but it'd be so heavy you wouldn't be able to whip it up in time to do much of anything.
     
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  5. Hitokiri_Gensai

    Hitokiri_Gensai Gunslinger Girl

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    as stated before, it would be too heavy to wield. now, its a sword, it has to have practicallity. if its too heavy to use then its too heavy to be of any use in any situation, except perhaps the one stated above, but then anyone who carries a sword just so they can block a bullet should be shot anyway.
     
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  6. Novus

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    Yeah, and they'd be better off using the thing as a club or something.
    If you want to stop a bullet, here's my suggestions:
    1. Wear something bullet-proof.
    2. Shoot the other guy first.
    3. Give the guy with the gun your wallet and hope that's all he wants.
    One of those should help.
     
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  7. Blue Crow

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    Maybe if you were using Gut's sword from Berserk.:p

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  8. Hitokiri_Gensai

    Hitokiri_Gensai Gunslinger Girl

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    eh...or you could do what i do...carry a big throwing knife...its fun...people run from you...
     
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  9. Angel from hell

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    Just a final thought on it... a sword (Lets say about the size of this "berserk" thing) made out of about half an inch of Kevlar... then coated in bullet proof lucid? Im guessing to an untrained person it would be considered heavy... but why the hell would an untrained person be going about trying to deflect bullets with sed sword to begin with :/ just a thought.
     
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  10. Hitokiri_Gensai

    Hitokiri_Gensai Gunslinger Girl

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    that would be rather stupid....again, it would be a sword made for the sole purpose of blocking bullets...what good is that at all? in normal combat it wouldnt be a very good blade to have...
     
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  11. Ark

    Ark Praise Judas!

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    Do you even know what Kevlar is? It's cloth. Good luck cutting someone with clothing.

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  12. SaberJ2X

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    LOL
    it appears he mentioned it because he heard that kevlar stops bullets :D
     
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  13. seraphinx

    seraphinx Oy, Artista!

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    Here are more ideas I came up with.....

    I didn't say that an average person would be using a big sword. Of course not! I already have a hard time swinging a normal-sized sword! I'm talking about huge guys using big swords, and not swords that are TOO big, but just light enough for them (and no need to "whip it up," cuz of course once you see that the other person is getting nuts, you already have your sword up in front of you). And no, people don't go walking around with a bullet proof sword just to block bullets. (Much the same way I don't carry my wallet around just so I can throw it at people!) How about someone just run some tests on strong swords? Not all swords are thin in the center of them (some swords I've seen are more than a quarter-inch thick in the thickest part). And I'm sure there's a light enough strong metal out there, maybe titanium, that could block bullets even if by deflecting (like that guy in Hellboy with his two baton-style blades). Cuz I heard from a jeweler that titanium is lighter and stronger than steel. Also, not all swords have a skinny straight blade. How about a curved sword, not too long, with a large/wide blade? (Like a modified wushu saber, or even a machete) And remember too that not everyone who owns/uses a gun is accurate, or is smart enough to not aim for the blade that someone holds in front of them; and "blocking a bullet" doesn't necessarily mean the two people have to be a certain distance from each other and in certain poses--it could be at pointblank range with the swordsman using his free hand to force the gun to shoot into his sword.
     
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  14. Nephilim_X

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    So in other words you're hoping for an utterly amazing set of lucky things to occur.
     
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  15. Novus

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    Let's take this piece by piece:

    1. A bigger person would be a bigger target. The increase in size of sword would have to be proportionately larger than the increase in size of person to compensate. Therefore, the sword would still have to be oversized.

    2. Not everyone who's going to shoot you will be "going nuts". What about snipers? What about a mugger who jumps in front of you and shoves the end of his pistol in your face? What about the guy who reaches into his violin case and pulls a gun on you? Chances are you wouldn't se any of those coming, so I doubt you'd have your weapon already in bullet-deflecting position.

    3. Carrying a bulletproof sword to block bullets is more like carrying a wallet so you can efficiently carry your money: you're using the article in each instance for its primary purpose.

    4. True, not everyone with a gun is amazing with it. The same is true for those who own swords. Just because I can walk down to House of Knives and buy a blade doesn't mean I can suddenly move faster than a bullet.

    5. If the swordsman's using his free hand to grab the gunman's weapon, he's not really using the sword to stop the bullet. In fact, in this case it doesn't even matter that he's carrying a sword at all. If that's your logic, you might as well say he could stop a bullet barehanded, because then there would be two free hands.
     
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  16. Izzy

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    You're still thinking in terms of just a sword.

    Even if the sword were made of mythril (read: MYTH-ril) you'd have to actually be strong enough to be able to STOP the bullet. Meaning, you can't have the bullet deflect the sword into yourself.

    If we're talking about swords specially treated to be ABLE to stop bullets, that's just like vests made to be bulletproof. I thought that the main point is of traditional swords. Ones made of steel, not titanium, or laced with something.
     
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  17. Hitokiri_Gensai

    Hitokiri_Gensai Gunslinger Girl

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    again, as previously stated...i do think this thread started with the swords being normal swords...nothing special. now, realisticly....who here is honestly going to be carrying a sword around for any reason. raise your hands for this...oh look...i see....umm....ooo! one! me! cause im insane...and i do it anyway *yes i have a permit*. two as far as i know, other than katana's you cant really bring swords off your own property. and with the katana you need to have a permit and that does have to be with the storage bag, or attached to the saya itself. so....realisticly...unless your a practioner of Nihon Kenjutsu i dont think your going to have a sword at your waist in public. and as stated before...i dont think your going to really have time to whip out a sword in time to save yourself.
     
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  18. MamiyaOtaru

    MamiyaOtaru President Bushman

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    THAT at least is possible. A bullet doesn't carry any more momentum than a thrown baseball (broad generalization. there are really fast bullets, and really heavy ones for which this wouldn't quite be true). In other words, it's a bit unrealistic for the bad guys to go flying back when shot. Nonetheless, as we've already established, getting the sword between yourself and the bullet kinda makes that a moot point :D
     
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  19. seraphinx

    seraphinx Oy, Artista!

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    Maybe we're thinking too logically. How about beyond normal physics? What if a person had a lot of chi? It lets people do "impossible" things, like steam-dry wet towels using their own bodies in snowy climate (Tibetan monks do that), make opponents get knocked backwards without touching them, etc. I've seen Shi Yan Ming live on stage (the Shaolin master guy) use his chest as a cutting board to chop up a bunch of cabbages with a brand new cleaver. Ever heard of Al Dacascos? He can catch shot arrows out of midair that were shot directly at him. Then there are guys who aren't even martial artists, yet they can stand perfectly still, making it impossible for anyone (no matter how strong/huge) to push them over. So if it's possible to do all of these "impossible" things, I bet it's possible to block a bullet with a sword. If you're abilities are great enough, you'd have the reflexes, be able to infuse your sword with chi, and have the immobility to not get knocked back from the force of the bullet.
     
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  20. Vicious

    Vicious Revolution...Revolucion!

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    All this chi stuff can be fake....but iam guessing that theres a possibility. Though it is a very slim possibility you can actually do this through anticipation.Also it depends on the distance. If it is shot in point blank.....you better hope that bullet is blank. But if it is at a long distance...well swing away and then there might be a chance that you might make it ricochet or how ever you spell that.

    Stop watching cowboy bebop kid :) :) :) :)
     
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