Neon Genesis Evangelion Lets face it...

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  1. Wolfwood

    Wolfwood New Member

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    Im sorry but am I the only one that notices that SO much of the stuff that got FUBAR in Evangelian is entirely that whigny chump Shinjis fault?
     
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  2. That guy!

    That guy! Expecting Father

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    Well in the first few eps he sure destroyed a lot. But I guess that's a side effect of his eva using berserk on everything... I really don't know how they pay all of the insurance bills ;)
     
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  3. Wolfwood

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    Also...

    *SPOILER*






    In the End of evangelian Movie, because Shinjis too much of a self pitying whiney little ***** Misato has to drag his *** everywhere and she gets slowed down and gets ****n' shot dead! She was the best ****n' character, man. Then, just because Winji Ikari is a self pitying **** he says EVERYONE should die- which thet do, except for him so he's also the one who killsShigeru and Fyutski who are the only other good characters, then he throttles Asuka cause of some ****ed up dream he had, even though she was fighting while he sat on his *** and got good ol' Katsuragi capped. I mean **** man, Shinji is a total ****n' pain in the **** I ****n' hate him I do.

    I apologise to Evangelian fans, but lets face it shinjis' crap.
    I also apologise for talking like Hellsings' Yan Valentine throughout this talk.;)
     
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  4. luvweaver

    luvweaver Ad Jesum per Mariam

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    ****** Eva

    Well i have to say something in favor of Shinji.

    COME ON! That show really $ U C |< $.

    No one realized that the only thing the little kid wanted was someone to love him and make him feel appreciated (this is why he liked Kaworu so much, but dah the producers had to kill him #^&)@(%#@^&). (mumble mumble)
    What a nice way to pester one's mind. Anyway... as I was saying...

    Let's reconsider. Why did he pilot the Eva? Because he wanted to feel accepted by his father. And he had no mother... man, that must really be lonely.

    I feel compasion for the poor Shinji. All his anger was because the people kept hurting him MORE AND MORE AND MORE. Specially Asuka, who always kept yelling at him.

    Just a hug... the only thing he needed was a hug.

    SPOILER






    And I betcha that if the people there gave that to him, the world wouldn't have been destroyed.




    END SPOILER

    Now I wonder what would've happened if a female angel offered to be his adoptive mother. But what am I talking about, the series mixes every possible religion without any prudence. YUCK.
     
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  5. Wolfwood

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    Touche'.....but...

    Shinji should stop being so dependant. Stand on his own 2 feet you know? He keeps wanting people to do stuff for him. Besides, If he wants affection he should stop relying on the sympathy vote....what a turn off. To me respect is more important than sympathy and Misato and Kaji (the cool ones) give him both.
    When he is given affection he rejects it. Hes a self indulgent chump.



    By the way....in the few times we look into Shinjis mind we see he wants a little more than a hug....





    :dizzy2:
     
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  6. Izzy

    Izzy moo. moo. moo!
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    That's the whole point of the series...it isn't actual religion because everything is so convoluted in the sense of it being focused on the religious aspect. Rather, the focus is the weakness of human beings...and Shinji represents the insecure child within us. He needs guidance from the parent(s) he's never had...that's all. He doesn't know how to handle that affection because it's never been given to him as he's remembered it. Even his guardian from before he came to Tokyo-3 didn't really have any feelings for him, he was paid to take care of him, and did so in a clinical fashion...sterile in execution. Actually, the only thing Shinji really got from his former guardian is how to play the cello...



    He's just better at it than most! :D
    And face it, if he wasn't so insecure, the great episodes 25-26 wouldn't happen. And just *THINK* about what would happen if he was sure of himself at first in the movie...no crazy effects and *BIGGGGGGGG* Rei...
     
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  7. Wolfwood

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    yeah but...

    If he hadn't been so insecure Misato, Shigeru and Fyutski would still be alive to. Being a whiney **** doesn't make all the bad **** that happens any less Shinjis' fault. Besides, hes gotta learn to have more cajones and stand alone. Honestly the only bigger whiney pain in the kaboose in all of anime is Yuri-chan from Alien 9 (haven't seen it?-DONT!)
    Shinjis a wuss, up one side down the other.
     
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  8. luvweaver

    luvweaver Ad Jesum per Mariam

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    Hey, you would make a really nice Asuka. I mean what's wrong with you? Where's your sense of compasion? I bet that you haven't really felt alone even ONCE in your life. Well, I have. And believe me. It hurts, it REALLY hurts. It's like a sting which never leaves you.

    If you haven't felt that... then don't get preachy, OK? You say what YOU would do in his place. But you haven't had Shinji's life. *SIGH* poor world.
     
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  9. Wolfwood

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    WOAH!

    For your information, Ive been alone plenty!!!!
    For the first 13 years of my life I was so overweight that I was treat like something lower than **** I was laughed at, spat on, hit insulted and garbage and abuse was hurled at me from people I didn't know. Few but my family which I didn't always see much of were ever nice to me, to the rest I was scum. NO exageration. Dont go assuming Ive never had it rough just because I can stop dwelling and stand on my own 2 feet!!!!
    By the way, as I pointed out earlier ASUKA who you rather hastingly compared me to, was doing her job and protecting the earth, while Shinji was sitting down and getting MIsato iced. Asukas a better person.
    By the way you Assumptionweaver, I have compassion to spare I just offer i to those who I respect and feel need it not self indulgent whingers attempting to get the sympathy vote!
    I know being alone hurts. I also no its something you can get over without getting people killed.
    Good day to you sir....
    ;)
     
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  10. Wolfwood

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    by the way.....

    This thread started as open debate on a FICTIONAL character. Some un named parties have decided to make personal stabs at real people however. I am continuing this trend but I in no way started it.


    Please bury the hatchet Luvweaver, making enemies isn't no fun.:)
     
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  11. Mordeth

    Mordeth Mordeth Vult!

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    aye, but at the same time it is very easy to get emotionally attached to a character, specially in a fantasy/sci-fi kind of enviroment..

    for example, if anyone starts badmouthig shinobu.... *narrows eyes*

    :)
     
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  12. Wolfwood

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    I get emotionally attatched sure, but I dont accuse people of being heartless b****** because of it.
    Hina Shinobu or Lum Shinobu?
     
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  13. Mordeth

    Mordeth Mordeth Vult!

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    My work here is done...
     
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    But you didn't do anything!
     
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  16. Mordeth

    Mordeth Mordeth Vult!

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    didn't he? ...
     
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  17. Wolfwood

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    HE?!?!!!

    Where have you been? Usagi Tsukino (girls name) is Legatos' (guy) GIRLFRIEND

    Mataku!
     
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  18. MamiyaOtaru

    MamiyaOtaru President Bushman

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    Shinji is a whiny little turd. I don't usually state things so bluntly, but Shinji bugs me. Yes, i know he's had it extremely rough. But he showed what he is made of by letting it drag him down to the level of a world killing fine-I-don't-want-it-anyway baby.

    I didn't mind him in eps 25 and 26, where he seemed to figure things out, but in EoE he, well, it's been said. He was the bottom of suck. (I happened to like 25,26 better than EoE in several ways)

    Regarding Shinji having the power to make his twisted little desires come true: Absolute power corrupts absolutely. That says two things. 1: He wascorrupted. 2: But maybe it wasn't entirely his fault, a lot of it was due to the overwhelming pressure shoved on him and the responsibility and power given him that he didn't really want in the first place. Still, the buck stops with him, in the end he is the one who used it wrong.

    And please, no one tell me I don't know what it's like to be alone. Just thought I'd try to preempt that. Which leads to.. the pompous, pathetic plea for peace: Remember! This is about a dweeby fictional character! Let's not let it spill over into real life too much. Goes for everyone.
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    Shinobu.. I'll never understand why she is just about the most popular Love Hina girl <- Shinobu badmouthing ;) Nothing wrong with her at all, she's just soo, young. BTW, if anyone wants to discuss Shinobu further we should start a new thread, this one is about Shinji <- sig of infinate length
     
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  19. Wolfwood

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    SENKYU!!!

    It is so nice to know that not EVERYBODY thinks that Shinji is anything but a whiney chump.
    I was worried when people kept on standing up for that self indulgent bunghole of a character.
    What a load off my mind.
    Ookini, Usagi and MamiyaOtaru, you guys give me hope for this forum.

    Regarding the Shinobu thing, its not as uncommon as you may think. For instance, Sasami is the most popular girl from Tenchi (on the subject of whiney chumps.....)
     
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  20. MamiyaOtaru

    MamiyaOtaru President Bushman

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    you have hope for the forum? very generous of you. Maybe you should instead have hope for yourself now that you aren't entirely alone in your opinion. :p
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    curse all smilie haters
    Sasami <- true argh
     
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