Saber Marionette Saber Marionette R

Well, the little bits of Z I have read left me pretty much confused. It may just require a better translator, dunno.

R was pretty dark. I still am not sure what happened to certain characters, or just dont want to believe it. bah
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there did seem to be some real women

 

It was made before J.
It was set on Terra II
and though the enemy sabers had new names, they all had the same voices..

by the manga, do you mean the SMJ manga? if so, where to grab a copy?
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fountain of something

 

hehe, well to be a little more specific I think it was around '94.
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the manga looks different

 

No, not really. I've just seen a few scans of it, mostly the covers. It just looks different, I thought looked like it wasn't as well drawn. I like the look of the anime characters better.

Of course, SMZ looks really weird
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needs another manga to apply the manga viewer to

 

Nothing yet, but I may go looking for the manga this weekend.

~ Lady Aoi: hell, why not, I need to get out more.

 

I've never seen R before. But is it THAT violence??? Jeesh... and I thought it was rated lower.. I mean, the marionettes look so much younger! That's one thing I wonder about OAVs: do OAVS tend to be more rated up??

 

R is only a tad more violent, really. The design elements are a little more gothic in style (it takes place in Romana so we have a lot of cathedrals and stained glass, think a cross between France and um... Romania and you have a good idea), and the violence has no comic dimension (no flying Hanagatas). In fact, there are very few truly comic moments to speak of ("train otaku" aside ^_~). And yes, the sexadolls are just that; mature in body like the saberdolls but created to both protect and pleasure their creator, Star Face. With that said, obviously there's slightly more nudity, too.

~ Lady Aoi: I should be working.

 

And need I mention the bath scene which on my RM files looked like Face was in a pool of his own <CENSORED>?

*Is promptly malleted several thousand times by Skuld of Ah! Megami-sama fame*

Skuld: HENTAI!

InuYasha - OWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOW!

 

Well, he has three beautiful women crawling all over him so I wouldn't be surprised. ^______~

~ Aoi: Also a hentai

 

Well, I'll revive this thread by saying that Saber Marionette R arrived in the mail tonight, and I plan on watching it right away. I had quite a bit of difficulty avoiding spoilers for it here and elsewhere, but now I need do so no longer.

Watch this post/thread (depending on if someone replies or not) for my opinion of it!

I figured reviving this thread would be better than starting another one.

 

I figured this was important (and long) enough to deserve a post of it's own. Here is my in-depth opinion of Saber Marionette R. I will have to watch it again right away, though. Be warned this post will contain spoilers, so read it at your own discretion.

SECOND WARNING, This post contains spoilers! Read at your own discretion!

First off, let me say, I loved it. Saber Marionette R truly is a great anime, worthy of the name Saber Marionette. It measured up to J quite well, although it is a story very different in its view. I rank it just above J Again, and only slightly below J and J to X.

Characters

Lime was quite interesting. She was quite childish, like her J counterpart. I did quite enjoy seeing Lime in R. She never was depressed, never down. In many ways, she was just like the blue-haired Lime we all know.

Cherry... well, she wasn't the Cherry I fell in love with. But she was still a great character. I worried about her just as I would for my Cherry, were she in the same situations. Cherry is quite the marionette, and I found that she was my favorite in R, just as she was in J. Still, Cherry from J remains my beloved, as she always will.

Bloodberry seemed the most different to me. She didn't seem quite as aggressive or forward as the Bloodberry we all know. I liked her. I was sad when she died, although I realize the importance of her death.

Junior is very different from Otaru. I didn't see him get angry at all, for one, and we know Otaru has a quick temper. To be honest, Junior seemed a lot like myself. I really could identify with him.

Face. To me, he most resembled Zio, of Phantasy Star 4. All in all, I thought he was a very cool villain, and has ranked among my favorites. For cool villains, he actually ranks second, with Rezo taking the lead.

The Sexadolls. Forgive me for putting them together, but I have other things to type. Brid, her J counterpart being Panther, wasn't bad, although she wasn't my favorite. For the same reasons as Panther, minus the pants, she was last on my list. Edge, the R version of Tiger, was just as awesome as Tiger herself. She was my favorite of the Sexadolls, even though she hurt Junior, and indeed, almost killed Lime. Kyanny, AKA Luchs, was pretty cool. I didn't like her as much as I liked Luchs, but she was still a good character. I think the main reason I didn't like her is for her attempts to kill Cherry.


Next, Mechanics

The Otome Kairo has changed greatly in it's appearance. While before, it looked like some sort of lens or something (you all know), now it resembles an actual heart. It doesn't seem to have changed in functionality, although it seems more common now.

The Marionettes seem to have much more pronounced "machinality," that is, they seem to be more like machines. While the girls from J looked human except for the vents on their arms, these marionettes have all sorts of crazy things. Cherry has a blowdryer in her elbow for some reason, and she can apparently heat her hands and feet to red-hot in an instant. Not to mention what seems to be a toolkit in her arm! Bloodberry has a line attaching her hand to her arm, which saves Junior more than once. And there are other things, too.

There still don't seem to be many women. In fact, except for mention of Junior's mother, I don't think that there were any at all! Were our Lime, Cherry, and Bloodberry's efforts in vain? Didn't Lorelei's cells create enough females?


Finally, the Story.

I thought this was very well done. I enjoyed it a lot. Although, as has been said, it does have a much darker story than J. I found it to be quite interesting. All of the characters were very well done, and I even felt bad for Face when he threw himself of the platform at the end. The story was on a par with J, and certainly one of Akahori Satoru-sama's greatest works.

Anyway, that's about all I can think of to say, so I'll quit with a question.

What were your favorite scenes of Saber Marionette R?

I thought Cherry's reaction to Lime, involving the ice-cream cone, was the funniest.

I thought Star Face's suicide at the end was the most poignant.

The fact that Cherry survived her final fight against Kyanny brought intense relief, even though she's not my Cherry.

Everything involving Lime's trophy is worth mentioning here. *Wakes up after having her energy restored* "Hey! Where's my trophy?"


All in all, Saber Marionette R was an excellent anime, worthy of the Saber Marionette series, and definately one of my favorites. I apologize to anyone who read the spoilers after I warned them twice about them.

I look forward to hearing other's opinions on it.

Shinryu-sama, I thought it was an excellent series! I'm glad we got the chance to see it, and I too, hope to hear what others have to say about it.


[EDIT]One last thing. I must say, it's a good thing I saw it after J, and that it didn't go any longer (oops, typoed that as lobfer ), or J might have had some serious competition. And no, I'm actually not kidding. :scared: