Music The RIAA...

Discussion in 'Music' started by BakaMattSu, Jul 4, 2002.

  1. BakaMattSu

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    It would seem the Recording Industry Association of America won't let up on its "enemy", the internet.

    These are the big five music companies who were responsible for offing Napster back in the day, pretty much killing off Audiogalaxy, and slapping on a standard play-fee for Internet Radio broadcasts just recently...

    And if rumors play true, they're next target could pretty well be you.

    In a move that targets users of p2p(peer-to-peer) fileshare such as KaZaA, Grokster, Morpheus rather than the p2p programs themselves, it's rumored that the RIAA will file lawsuits against users will large amounts of pirated music up for file share...On top of that, they've also already lined up for lawsuits against the major fileshare players...

    They're pretty intent to try and shut down the digital music industry, ne? If they end up successfully doing so, I can't see myself eagerly rushing out to spend almost as much on a CD as I can for a DVD....
     
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  2. That guy!

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    One problem that I have with this is that The music industry already makes 13.4 billion dollars a year! (or is that how much it is worth all together?). But the thing is that MP3's really aren't making too much of a difference, yeah maybe they lost like 1 million from it or something, but that's nothing compared to how much they get from the music industry all together.

    But then again something that bothers me is that this is like going to Zellers and filling your cart with a bunch of stuff then running off without paying it because they make millions of dollars... it's something I'm wondering about. Also is it taking away freedom of speech if we have to pay to hear others voices? But going through my list on winamp now I'm finding that most of the songs on there are not copyrighted (click on a song the press ALT+3). Mostly because they are Japanese and aren't licensed here ^^;;;

    At a presentation I was at (in my OAC computer class) a student talked a bit about the future of mp3's. I'm not sure if this is a reliable source... but I'll say it anyways. The RIAA is going to set up a worm type virus that attaches to mp3's which will make only 1 minute of each MP3 on your hard drive be able to play. And if you want to get the rest of this mp3 you will have to register it... it'll be like 2 dollars(American)/song. And this will only be the first part of it... if you are only paying 2 dollars/song then you won't be able to access certain features such as burning this mp3 to cd... for that you will have to pay like 5 dollars a song.


    here are some other related articles that I came across:
    http://www.riaa.com/PR_Story.cfm?id=459
    http://www.riaa.com/Protect-Online-1.cfm
     
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  3. Bloodberry

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    i think what's really getting the top 5's goats is that the independant labels are starting to do better. they're finding out now, that alot of ppl aren't happy with the bands they're being forced to hear and want something orginal. heaven forbid that. i don't download as much as i used to, but i still buy the cd if i like the songs i heard from my downloads...and well, let them hack into my computer. i can take out a loan and fight them. that's invading my privacy, and if it's illegal for private individuals to do(the fbi i think, are the only ones allowed...) not some big corperation. i honestly think, if they want ppl to buy the cd impulsivly, they need to lower the prices. hell, i found some punk cds i need to get cause they have about 40 bands on them, and cost only 3 bucks in store...whereas the actual cds for each band are 17.99 a piece...hmm...and then they can actually trickle more of that money to the hard working artists that make the music. i'd prefer to pay them than the industry anyday. most artists aren't big jerks. most...(kinda, i'm sheltered)
     
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  4. MamiyaOtaru

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    It's a scary place out there. People I know have already had cease and desist letters sent to their ISPs, who told them to stop, or get booted. (hint: avoid spiderman right now)

    There are at least five companies going around logging the IPs of people sharing files on lists the entertainment industry gives them. A lot of them also share fake copies of files, though that doesn't worry me too much.

    For the moment, the safest place to be is Filetopia. Filetopia uses strong (256 bit) encryption on chat and transfers, and hides your IP address.

    If they shut down file sharing services, that sucks. That isn't what worries me most though. The thing that scares me is the prospect of having 'security' features built into every piece of hardware, and microsoft's coming OS that will take advantage of them. Having security features run on boot up to see if nothing has changed, features that only give you access to 'trusted' software and hardware or media etc. Check senator Fritz Holling's bill.. I don't have a link now, but the politicians like the idea, and MS and Intel are working on it on their own, without such a bill even being passed.

    Big brother is coming true. The scariest part about minority report was the ads. Well, that's already with us in the form of cookies, and will get worse, with the security features on your PC. It is like the XP activation gone mad.

    Anyway, one light note: a virus that makes you pay for MP3s is nothing to worry about. Like any virus, you have to let it on your computer first. They can do funny things to mp3 files that you download, but MP3 files cannot execute code. play them in winamp or ultraplayer or wherever and it decodes audio info, but doesnt run any hypothetical code in the mp3 file. Windows media player? in the future, who knows..

    back to anger:
    It also pisses me off that the entertainment industry has more clout in washington than the vastly huger tech sector. argh

    Also, they are rich. they extort us, and now a better model has come along. Still, they attempt to protect their profits with laws. No one has a god given right to profits. they must adapt and learn to use the new system instead of trying to pass laws protecting profits. It's like communism, they want government protection for their jobs. It is the antithesis of capitalism, where the best model and most efficient survives. They want to turn us into a communist bloated country, and godless to boot (ninth court and the pledge)

    i am all for reverse secession, where the rest of the country secedes from California. No offense to californians here, you'll be welcome to move to the united states. Except the entertainment types.
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    MO, who hates hates hates hollywood, the mpaa and the riaa, and know it all senators trying to kill technology, and a greedy monopoly (MS) trying to hold onto its power. screw it all
     
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  5. Bloodberry

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    amen to that brother...the entertainment sector is waaaaaaaaaay out of line...the only thing now is i fear for my dad and my friends...(not stoller tho..i hope he gets caught...mwahahaha then i get his job)
     
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    A new development in this story (if you hadn't heard it yet):

    http://www.freep.com/money/tech/newman5_20030405.htm

    The RIAA has taken charge and given out lawsuits now. One such unlucky Michigan Tech University student has been hit with a whopping $97.8 billion charge for his 652,000 mp3s which he offered up on share to his fellow students.

    $97.8 billion. That's a whopping number. Who has that kind of money? Definately not any university student...
     
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  7. Energizer Bunny

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    heard about something like that on tech tv hehe might have been the same guy but cant remember... they sued him for a LOT of money...dont think it was quite that much but same situation...and he lost everything he had saved up since his early childhood...it was really sad :( shame on the RIAA for doing stuff like that! dude the artists are still making sooo much money n people are going to keep dling no matter what they do so they should just get over it...pah!
     
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    that's horrible...you would almost think the government would have stepped in by now..oh wait, that's just me being naive..sigh. hope there's a collection for the kid to get him a good lawyer..or to at least help him out iif/when he loses...sigh
     
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  9. Ark

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    The RIAA is evil. That's pretty much the extent of it. They are immensely greedy and have no idea about the life of people who are NOT billionaires. I don't buy from RIAA labels when I can avoid it now, I buy from labels like Century Media and the like, that are still run by human beings, not bottom lines.

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  10. BakaMattSu

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    Well, I don't believe they expect to actually collect that much from this case, or from the other cases against other "distributors". The real intent here is to scare off the whole collectors of digital music altogether. In doing so, they bumped that hefty charge to the maximum $150,000 per song.
     
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  11. Alucard666

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    those people really piss me off. greedy bastards are all they are. alls they want is their money. as long as they are happy they dont care about humans. even if they shutdown major p2p programs, more will keep popping up. there are so many users on them. what are they gonna do? sue 100 million people for having music they downloaded. i download music, movies, games. if i cant buy them, ill download them. im not scared of them. they can sue me all they want. im not afraid. i only have about 1000 songs on my pc, so what, are they gonna sue me for 150,000 a song. thats 150 million i think. and it seems to me, their only doing this to people with less money than others. they act like super rich people dont download stuff. since they have more money, then their superior to all, and cannot do wrong. if i could, i would fight them till i die. my three cents.
     
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  12. Energizer Bunny

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    *appluads alucard* exactly!!!! they do seem to target the middle class! dude celebrities dl too! *shakes her head* so dissapointing f'real
     
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  13. Alucard666

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    so its dissapointing that i download stuff all the time, and im not afraid to say it. i dont care if you think its sad or whatever, doesnt phase me a bit.
     
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  14. Ark

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    I think you totally misinterpretted her post Alucard.

    - Ark
     
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  15. Legato666

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    Some free country this is,yes we do have more then other countries but still this not even close to a free country.I guess its privilege not freedom.
     
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    Okay, well having 1000 mp3's is one thing, but when a person has 652,000 (holy crap.. that around 2608 gigs of mp3's!!!) then that's going a bit too far.

    They should allow people to download some mp3's but maybe set a limit because no matter how you look at it, estimating that there would be 16 songs on a cd, and when that person had 652,000 songs... then that is for sure, over $20,000 worth of music. And that is grand theft, I mean if you see a car that is 20,000 you can't just take that because you can't afford it and the company makes billions of dollars...

    I think I'm probly making some enemies ^^;
     
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  17. Sebastien

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    I do have over 3000 mp3s, but they're all on Data CDs. I only have about 100 on my comp since I formatted a while ago. I doubt it'll get to the point they'll break into people's houses to see if they're not hiding Mp3s, lol. Though you never know.... :rolleyes:
     
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  18. Energizer Bunny

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    i was agreeing with you alucard!! and dont give them any ideas sorcy!!!! *yipe*
     
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  19. Alucard666

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    sorry bunny, i did think about it and read your post a few times and it clicked. after i had posted though, so my mistake. no hard feelings or anything? i hope not
     
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  20. Energizer Bunny

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    not at all buddy!!!! *tackles* happens to everyone! and to continue on my last post sorcy does have a point... i usually dl songs throw em on a cd then delete how could they penalize someone when their mp3s are no longer mp3s??? i really hope they could not *hope hop* that would suck greatly if they found a way to do that legally...
     
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