Recreation US plans to ban Cloning of Humans.

On tonights speech By Mr Bush..
He wants to Ban cloning.. Frankly i dont think that should happen because if you look at where cloning is at in its stages.. your not actualy making an exact copy. So you dont have to worry about that part of it..

But anyway I think its great for the Medical department if they keep the research going on cloning..

KaMe

 

hahaha
cloning.
sounds funny.
anyway, wats the problem wif cloning?
its not like, bad...
its technology.
i dont see y they wanna bann it.
but then...
something like in Resident evil might happen.
T-Virus.
lol.

 

Some people have some silly belief that it violates God's will and such...

 

it aint good when a slave overpowers his master.
bah, if god is all Mighty and Strong, then...
why did he make us so smart?
like, u know what i mean.
if he dosnt want us to do his job, then he shouldnt let us.
bah.
i aint no religious peepol, but, yeah...

note:no offence to any religious people.

 

the main thing I would worry about with cloning, is with cloned humans.. would they have the same rights as the rest of us? or would they have to fight for them?

also, you'd have to think about quality of life.. if some crazy woman got a baby cloned from the cells of her dead husband... what will hapen to the child when it finds out:? when would it be right to tell them, that in a way.. they are their father?


another issue is "designer babies"... parents being able to choose their childs hair colour, skin colour, height.. blah blah blah... I am pretty much against that..but how about disabled children then? if a disability is spotted in the womb and can be corrected.. should it be? and whatr exactly can be classed as a disability?

I think it is a troublesome issue, and we should proceed cautiously.. but I do not believe that we should ban it just because it is not an easy to make a choice about it, that is idiotic and childish.

 

Mord has a point.

I don't really like the idea of picking and choosing a baby's features etc, and cloning falls under that category. It is just too much like eugenics. I think that is a bad thing^TM

Anyway, as has been said, caution! Banning is a bit too absolute for me, but we should be careful.

 

well immitation is the highest form of flattery, maybe he won't mind

besides, we are not creating "people", .. I am not my body, if I lost a limb I would not be any less of a person, would I?

if god created people.. he gave them minds, or souls.. and this is something we cannot do. we can create the body (or more specifically, allow the body to create itself), but we cannot add a "person", we cannot add traits to their personality.

so if you are to look at it that way... if a cloned person does have his own personality, and is indeed his own person.. either god blesses his being and acknowledges him and how he came into the world, or god has nothing to do with us being "people", and the whole religious issue becomes a moot point.

 

Much as I'm disagreeing with you in the other thread, that was exceptionally well put Mord, I can't think of a better way to state that.

Personally, I'm against the cloning of full humans, simply because I see no use for cloning a full human other than military (an Army of One, anybody?) or organ harvesting (better to clone the organ itself). Cloning as a technology has a lot of potential good uses, but really, at the moment there is no compelling reason to actually clone a human. Still, I don't think it merits a ban.

That's just my $0.02 though.

- Ark

 

damn mord. you just articulated things very well. That was what I was thinking before, but I didn't know I was thinking it cause it just hadn't gelled. Now it has. full agreement

 

cloning sheep ...and this humans now? heh..... for science.... to help others.... but then.... i go for it but i dont.... they already say they cant support stuff now..and they are making clones? heh

 

i dont c whats wrong with cloning, its science, it could cure cancer!!! it could!!

 

I'm against the cloning of humans. There's just no way it can end in good, especialy considering the people around these days. Cloning parts of humans I've got no problem with. Stem cells and the like could cure countless diseaese and all sorts of ****, but that's still getting close to the line. If it was managed properly, I wouldn't be against it, but I'm just not convinced it'd be a good thing.

 

Here is something i seen the other day ill. It was a show about this farmer who had his prize milking cow cloned in the hopes that its clone would be the exact same and be as good a milking cow as the original.
But what they found out is (if i understood them correctly ) your actualy only making a half copy of the original.. So is it cloning or is it just an advanced way of artificial insemination (hope thats spelt right).

And i also see a clone of a cat but the colors of the cat were completly different..

IM not realy for it or against it.. I mean maybe down the road they can get rid of heart defects and stuff like that through the technology that cloning is going to add to science..

But its like a wave you cant stop it no matter what bans the government puts out.

KaMe

 

You forget Zanza.. there are hundreds of kids who grow up everyday with no families right now.. im sure a cloned kid will have more of a family then a kid living on the street

KaMe

 

indeed, if human cloning ever becomes "the norm", then I'm sure society will adapt and figure out some method of counselling, or some way of explaining it to the child.

it's just another way of being born, you grow in the womb.. or... somewhere else not sure what they actually do


as for those crazy people wanting to clone hitler or jesus, can you imagine the pressure that child would be under? .. when it reads up on what "he" did (i doubt a child would be able to understand exactly how he differs from the original), it could/would seriously damage him

 

I watched a show about trying to clone like a hitler or some other famous person.. and you maight be able to clone what he looked like but they said you can never clone there mind.. so the clone will turn how by how he was raised. And hitler for one grew up in in the empire times and served in world war 1.. so im sure as hell you could never recreat that..

KaMe

 

Here's my couple of cents...

I can't say I agree with cloning, the whole thing is way too contraversial. For one thing I don't think that we should fool around with such a huge design as human genetics, we may perfect cloning some day, but until that day arrives how many people will be cloned and have defects that could be fatal?

And also, why the heck would we need to clone full human beings? I mean, if the world is already over-populated then what is the point. Yeah, I can see just to see how far we can go technologically or out of curioustiy but that's just vanity...

The whole organ thing I'm questioning, but I can't say I agree with using stem cells from fetus' who will one day become like you and me. There's gotta be a better way to do this ><

 

Cloning: Undecided.

While it would be nifty to have another me, the world couldn't handle it. Just kidding.

Like it has been mentioned before, the person would share only physical traits with their...um...I'll call it their Unit. Wihle they share traits with their Unit, the psychological aspect of "personality" comes about through the way that they are raised, like that MTV show "Clone High." (Y'know, where they clone all these famous people like Ghengis Khan, Abe Lincoln, Joan of Arc and such...I love that show. But anyway...) But there is no PURPOSE! And that's what annoys me...no purpose. Sure, we could braindead them and let them mature in a lab, but, I don't think that anyone wants to seem themselves a veggie. As Ark said, 'tis better to clone the individual organ. Less muss, less fuss. Less blood for orderlies to clean up, too, tbh. The only way I could see the whole "Human Husk" idea maturing is if we perfected brain transplants. Because then we could live forever. But thats just silly science fiction...

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Yes, silly science fiction...