Recreation "Nice Guys" gather round

tooms: thanks. I am less than knowledgeable about certain things.

Still, it seems to me, if one hangs out with bad boys, hows a nice guy going to decide to talk to his parents and get the ball rolling?

Anyway, an interesting system, it has its merits.

 

Now, I don't consider myself a "bad boy" or a nice guy.
And if you reversed the situation, with a bad girl and nice girl.
I mean a bad girl sounds like a hell of a lot more fun to be with.
I've never had a "bad girl" girlfriend, all these nice girls are just way to bland. Maybe it's just our idea's of fun are too different.

And the whole settling down with a nice person just sounds like a cop out or something. I wouldn't want to settle down with someone I'd be board with.

And don't expect any different from girls really. I wouldn't settle for someone I'd find boring. I don't expect them to do any different.

Unless there was a nice girl exterior but a bad girl inside. That would be interesting.

 

One thing i noticed in High School was the so called Cool crowed. AKA Jerks would start dating all the first year students Grade 9 in high school.. So bassicaly by the time the grade 9's got to grade 12 they had serious issues. do to the fact that these guy treated them like **** so they themselves would look cool.. Its a sad sad cycle of things..

KaMe

 

It is kind of strange because most girls do seem to go for the type of guy that is a "bad arse" just to look cool. But as well, in my opinion from observation, a lot of girl's think that all guys are sleezy and there is not one nice guy on the planet. I hate to make assumptions, but all of the nice guys are the ones who are shy and who have been picked on in their life, these guys know what it is like to feel hurt and would not want to have their gf's/ life partner to be hurt. And I know Nee chan, bro was really ticked off at everyone by that point... I'm extremely ticked off at how most guys treat girls as well, it's not right to say that you love anyone and then hurt them

From what I've seen as well, the type of guys that are nice guys want to have serious relationships and most girls can't handle this right away. Where the bad guys mostly just want to have fun >< It can be vice versa probably too.

 

What, you can't have fun ain a serious relationship?
Okay I know I'm probably twisting your words.
BUt I don't think things are as black and white as everyone is making them out to be.
Nice guys being sensitive, devoted martyrs.
Bad guys being selfish, uncaring louts.
Come on, I mean they're pathetic stereotypes and both repulsive people in my opinion.
One a posesive, clingy little wimp and the other a violent, arrogant *******.
Lets be a little more realistic here. I don't think everyone's seeing the whole picture.


I hate to make assumptions, but all of the nice guys are the ones who are shy and who have been picked on in their life, these guys know what it is like to feel hurt and would not want to have their gf's/ life partner to be hurt

That's a big assumption dude.
I could make the assumption that all shy people lack confidence, therefor all people with confidence aren't nice people.
But I know that is toatl *******.

[BMS Edit: Please watch your self-censoring. It is still visually offensive minus one letter.]

 

Yeah I sort of see your point there Mad, that was just a theory of mine >.< Of course you can have fun in a serious relationship, but in my opinion that is not the main basis of a serious relationship... The main basis is to be there to help the other person, and to be with them through any situation and to love them. But I guess that this brings happiness to them as well so of course there is fun. I think I'm just confusing myself and others ><

And I do see what you mean with the confidence thing as well, but I have seen that people who know what it is like to be picked on in the past know not to do these things to others as well... But these people can have confidence as well @_@x

 

I'd recommend you guys watching this movie with Drew Barrymore:

http://www.epinions.com/content_44071620228

Driving in Cars with boys


It's about a girl who gets pregnant by a guy she met - the point is, he SEEMED like a nice guy. But in the end he's a complete irresponsible and nearly ruins her and her son's life.

So in general, you should really be careful who you hang out with. As a hint, don't sleep with him/her until you're sure (s)he's the love of your life. (I would prefer not having sex before marriage, but that seems too hard to acomplish for some people, but anyway)...

The problem about hanging out with people, is that sooner or later the relationships grow. A pal becomes a friend, a friend becomes a girlfriend, and a girlfriend becomes a lover. So, it's really difficult to choose a "nice guy" or girl to marry if all the people you hang out with aren't exactly nice.

 

Some people don't see it as an acomplishment.

And if she got pregnant well that's tough ****, should have been more careful.
(edit: hmmm....I wasn't clear here, both people should have been careful)

And all this choosing the nice guy thing.
What if the guy you choose doesn't choose you?
It's all one big search and you learn things along ther way.
And you know what they say about experience being the best teacher.

[BMS Edit: Please watch the offensive language!]

 

A bit off topic ^^;;

Ok well I the kind of girl that just keeps to myself during school...Its not that i'm eavesdropping just sometimes I hear these "bad boys" talking to these girls, showing off, and some are stupid enough to ask a girl to be a lesbian to turn them on...sigh well I'm actually glad that I'm quiet, because I have seen how creul some guys can be; actually having the opertunity to see who they are before becoming "involved" and I can tell which are nice or not...My first boyfriend (Musashi) is not exactly the shy type so I was afraid to talk to him at first...but anyways we are long distance now and he sometimes isnt the nicest guy, he is stubborn at times when i need to discuss things, but wat I'm saying is not every "nice guy" is what u think they are, no one is perfect...At one time I thought these "nice guys" were rare but I come on this and I realize that in a sence all guys are nice (confusing myself) its just that most guys dont like to open up and share thier feelings (talking to a friend about what is on thier mind) and by doing this they hurt people without realizing it...I believe there is always a reason why people pick on you...some times they are jealous (because u are smarter) so they try to bring you down to thier level, having a bad day, or just are bored and want to hurt people because they find it funny...I dunno its what I think...

 

Nice guys are dellusional
******** are just honest

heheh, just kidding.

[BMS Edit: Again, please watch your language!]

 

Firstly, luv, I don't think it's very wise to base your life on a (bad) teenager movie. Secondly, I don't think it's right to be just stereotyping people, because they're shy or because they hang out with the 'cool' crowd. I don't know what the **** is like in america or canada, but over here, in any school I know, there isn't really a set crowd who everyone wants to be friends with. If that's what your school is like, I think it must be kind of pathetic. This thread is giving me a headache. Don't treat someone badly becasue someone said they were a ****, don't avoid them because they're shy or popular, just don't judge a person until you know them personaly.

 

Well to touch on something DL said in canada, in school you have your groups.. but thats like anywhere.. some ppl want to be punk and hang together some are Preps, skaters, Hockey players.. yada ya... But for the most part.. (where i was anyway) everyone hung out with each other at some point in time..

But there was always the Group of the So Called Winners.. the Cool crowd.. or so they thought.. It was this crowd that had all the jerks and the girls who could not do any better.. It was these guys that cheated on their GFs, and oh yes the girls heard about it yet they still dated these idiots.. Why not sure. some sort of mental thing i guess..

So in my opinion if you consider yourself some sort of Nice guy and go after these girl that are messed up.. you will probably loose most of the time.. thus finishing last..

But in my case, I just have bad luck with any girl. Yes im shy.. But was i picked on.. at times but i always fought back, because i hate being pushed around... was i a nerd , hardly.. Do i have lack of confidence.. no i rarely give up at anything..

But someday ill have my time in the sun.. its only a matter of time.. I hate every minute of it, but thats life.. no one said it be a walk in the park..

KaMe

 

what about the woman wantying to try the man out? it's alot easier for a woman to please a man than the other way around

and while I personally have nothing to do with it, I think sex can be a very healthy and fun part of a relationship, as long as it is done with respect and love for the other person *and yourself*

sex before marriage isn't bad, but if the worst *well i just plain don't like children * happens, you should be prepared to accept it