Anime They Never Change Clothes!!

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  1. trashmasta

    trashmasta New Member

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    ohhh okay... thanks :)
     
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  2. ::ZodiacStone::

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    Just letting everyone know- Sailor Moon.

    Serena wears a different outfit at least once every week.... or two.... The other girls, not so often.
     
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  3. Kogarashi

    Kogarashi Summon of Wood

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    It also depends on the series. Some series are aimed at girls more than guys, or girls exclusively, and those are more likely to have outfits change a lot to show off fashions. Shounen series are less likely, because the boys don't care about clothes as much as action. ::shrug::

    With the seasonal outfits, you'll notice that a couple times in Fruits Basket and Inuyasha as well. There are a few episodes where the characters are wearing summer uniforms instead of the standard.

    As to some characters (Spike, Miaka) washing their clothes, I can assume Kagome does the same, as she does go home on a relatively regular basis and wears different clothes while she's there. She's been in the Sengoku Jidai in different outfits once in a while, owns more than one uniform, and carries that huge backpack around (stands to reason that she's got at least one change of clothes in there).
     
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  4. seraphinx

    seraphinx Oy, Artista!

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    Yeah, whether or not characters change outfits depends on stuffs. Since I'm an adult I prefer more realism, plus I expect anime these days to have more regards to lil details like changing clothes.

    Another anime that does have different outfits...GTO (Great Teacher Onizuka).
     
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  5. Shadowbard

    Shadowbard Black-Winged Angel

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    Another interesting thing to note about costume changes....

    Shoujo series tend to have more costume changes than shounen series. This can be seen in manga as well as anime.

    But yes, it really does depend on the series and the animation budget. Most series, I've noticed, will give their characters only one or two costume changes, if any.

    ~Shadrach Anki
     
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  6. Solo

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    HEY!!! not all girls care about stupid clothes! *stomps off*
     
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  7. Shadowbard

    Shadowbard Black-Winged Angel

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    Yes, we know that not all girls care about clothes and that not all boys care about action. However, when you're marketing something you want to get it out to the largest number of people possible, so you have to go with the generalizations.

    ~Shadrach Anki
     
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  8. MamiyaOtaru

    MamiyaOtaru President Bushman

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    Rah Xephon had a lotta different outfits (though each character seemed to have one or two they wore most of the time) Azumanga Daioh also had a load of different ones (when they weren't in school uniforms. That's a rant for another thread). I do like extra touches like that.

    Animated characters (esp those from the same show) are a bit harder to differentiate than real actors, so having them always in the same clothes can help. WHile I think I could tell Ranma from Ryouga if they wore identical stuff, it would be a bit harder
     
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  9. BakaMattSu

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    Oh, come now. Haven't you ever seen those cartoons where they open their closet to get dressed, and they have the same outfit on 30 different hangers? ^_^

    I think it's mainly because clothing can be so hard to come up with. Not every animator or mangaka is necessarily a fashion designer. Have you ever tried designing clothing? It can be a pain at times to get something you find acceptable together.

    It's safe enough to ignore. After all, you accept the fact that they rarely need to use a bathroom, that some of them can fly or shoot laser beams from their hands, and have giant eyes and miniscule mouths. What's wrong with a singular wardrobe? :p
     
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  10. Kogarashi

    Kogarashi Summon of Wood

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    ::chuckles:: You did remind me, though, BMS. In Rizelmine, they explained why the male lead (can't remember his name) has the same exact outfit (that isn't his uniform). His mother only buys blue and white striped shirts for him (all identical) because they're his favorite.
     
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  11. Seiri

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    I know I'm a little new to Anime, but from what I have seen and read about it ect. it's because of budget and it's also a trademark. Just like the style of animation is a trademark within itself. No one can mistake DBZ for any other cartoon, same that you cannot mistake Rurouni (or at least I can't) for something else either. It's just all there.

    I'm big into realism as well and occasionally I do go into outbursts of why can't they be a bit more realistic in the cartoons. Then I think to myself and say if it was completely realistic, do you think that it would be interesting? Or even if it was more realistic it would be a little less interesting. Plus I know I have my favorite outfits compared to ones that I don't wear as much and even have more then one of a couple of the things I have, so it is possible that they might have a singular outfit.

    I'm probably not making too much sense because I'm trying to hurry and write this because I gotta go eat dinner. Hopefully this can make a little sense, but if not I think you will be able to get the gist of it.

    *The N00B*

    Seiri
     
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  12. Odin

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    This is very off topic, but for a self-proclaimed n00b, Seiri, you have gained my utmost respect for 1. making separate paragraphs in your posts 2. being coherent 3. spelling words correctly and 4. not including any random japanese or emoticons in this post (though essentially this doesn't really matter).

    You have made me so happy I'm giving you a cookie.

    ::gives Seiri an official Odin-brand homemade cookie::
    -Odin
     
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  13. Seiri

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    I know this is also off topic, but I felt that it would be appropriate for me to acknowledge Odin.

    ::munches on the cookie that Odin gave her, taking little nibbles between speaking, swinging it left and right as her hands do her talking, and bits of crumbs flying everywhere::

    Thanks for the compliment. I know I get a little annoyed when paragraphs are all ran together, especially if there is a little change in subject. I don't know if it is the little English freak withing me (although I still say I am a pretty bad speller, but that's why I made sure not to try and spell words I didn't know or if I did, which in that post I did because I hadn't the time, I will search it up).

    Heh before I get too off topic I'm just going to make this short. Just wanted to say thanks for the cookie ...

    ::says this while licking her fingers to make sure she didn't miss any of the cookie::

    *The N00B*

    Seiri
     
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  14. RobotechRulz

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    Tokyo Fashion Police 3050: Pull ovvvaaa Faye!

    I totally disagree with most of you guys. This is one of the reasons I now hate Cowboy Bebop. The first episodes I saw I really loved. Then I saw the movie and was, like, "do the NEVER change clothes"? I mean, I HATED Faye's clothes the first couple of episodes, and to find out that she was doomed to wear them for the rest of the series, well that just ruined the entire thing for me. I don't care if they only have five outfits, it's not THAT hard to have them change from episode to episode.

    As for character recognition, that's the job of the director. You have to introduce the character at some point in each episode. The character will have on new clothes, and maybe even sport a new hairdo once in a while - but will always have the same voice, face, and body type. From that point on, the viewer should be able to figure it out...unless they are a real chowder head.

    Obviously changing clothes should depend on the plot and setting of the anime. For instance, superheros almost never change their superhero costumes, people in magical lands usually wear the same clothes as it's like the middle ages and clothes are usually just worn for utilitarian purposes (unless they go into battle and need to wear some armour of course). But to not have characters in different clothes when your anime is "reality" or "future-reality" based, that's just egrigious.

    To argue that anime is for kids is stupid: you shouldn't "dumb down" to your audience. To argue that it's too hard is lazy: all it would take is to hire someone who can draw clothes well.

    So why do the do it? Because they suck!
     
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  15. luvweaver

    luvweaver Ad Jesum per Mariam

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    You're right in something...

    Who wouldn't like watching their favorite shows (mine is Saber Marionette) and having the characters using different dresses?

    :'( bwaaaa.... Now I got this fashion craving on characters! :(
     
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  16. Kaiyon

    Kaiyon Grim Reaper

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    You may have a point there. Maybe from episode to episode.

    As for character recognition, that's the job of the director. You have to introduce the character at some point in each episode.[/QUOTE]
    I believe thats also up to the creator of the series.

    I can understand new threads, but a new hairdo? Do you realize how much work they put into the hair!? If you change it, many people wouldn't like that. Maybe if theres like a long while from episode to episode. But still, they shouldnt change it.

    What about uniforms!? Ever think of that? And, I really cant place an anime thats reality or future reality where they dont change clothes at least once.


    You could have the guy to draw the clothes, but he may not be able to adapt to the style of face or hair. And besides...wether clothes change is up to the creator.

    Think about this, how would you like to draw the same character unlimited times in the same clothing, and just when you get used to it..."BAM"..your editor says that they want new clothes. Trust me, the creator alone doesent draw anime. There's other people hired to adapt to his/her style. First of all, thats very difficuld. Secondly, to draw a character the exavt same as the co-worker next to you puts pressure on you. You want to get used as easy as you can.

    I really havent heard anyone complain about this subject as much as you.
    i dont mind that maybe Conan never changes clothes. But i dont watch anime to look at they're clothes alone. Maybe Im just too entretained by what going on around the whole screen.


    -KaiyonTormentor
     
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  17. Izzy

    Izzy moo. moo. moo!
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    Then you'd have to hire more key-animators to draw in the new clothes at that point in time. Then you'd have to get the in-betweeners (the people who actually draw the cells in between in each major action) to draw the outfits in movement.

    But before that, outfits have to be approved (if not modeled) by the director *and* producer. Make it easy to animate by the character designer. If it's not easy, then it's back to the director and producer.

    THEN those animation guys come in....
     
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  18. Kaiyon

    Kaiyon Grim Reaper

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    A truly painful process indeed. You cant have all that frustration going around. Its not about being lazy, its about being thoughtfull. Imagine the crazy hours you'd have to do if characters changed clothes as often as we did in real life!
    CHAOS!

    -KaiyonTormentor
     
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  19. RobotechRulz

    RobotechRulz New Member

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    oh come on.....

    Don't they ALREADY have to draw clothes? Maybe they should make some kind of industry standard where if one can only draw one set of clothes on your character one won't be able to make anime on a professional level and one should stick to drawing comic strips instead. Jezz, I can't imagine a world where anime artists can't even draw different clothes. All they would have to do is change the color of the suit/dress/etc, make some ruffles, whatever. It's easy.

    My personal belief is that current anime producers just reuse their character cells over and over and over and over and over and over. That way they can just change the backgrounds, and almost any hack can draw/steal a background. Thus, no one ever changes clothes and we all nod our heads in mindless acceptance. Can't get any lazier than that.

    PEACE OUT!
    :cool:
     
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  20. Nephilim_X

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    You're a fan of Robotech, yet complain about reused cells? o_O

    Anyway, there is anime where they change clothes. Kiddy Grade and Chobits come to mind.
     
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