Debate The Banning Thread (formerly NephX's Ban)

naruto is talking abot chatroom bans, slinger...talking about forum bans...

 

I see this new forum's really kicking off great, isn't it?

Suffice it to say, we will never publicly discuss bans on M2A. Feel free to endlessly debate it here, but if given in deserving sense, a ban will not be revoked.

Banned members are free to contact us if they do not understand why they were banned, but generally, those who have earned a banning should not be surprised by its enforcement - they should inwardly have known it was coming, and outwardly have been warned (except in extreme cases, i.e. Hentai).

It is then their prerogative if they wish to discuss their banning circumstances with whomever they choose.

Nephilim_X has contacted me, and I will be getting back to his e-mail later tonight.

Again, we will never publicly discuss bans on M2A. Thank you for your co-operation.

[Edit: Please stay on the subject at hand. Feel free to begin a new debate topic for IRC bans if you wish.]

 

alright well, since the subjects been dodged, anyone think of WHY he was banned?

 

yeah, but we'd just like to know why, as we've heard he didn't even get a pm saying a ban was going to be placed on him. especially since one is usually promised, or at least an email before hand.
we aren't trying to start a war. we just dont' understand and are going to try and work it out.

 

Re: Nephilim_X's Ban

I find these just a bit baseless. The only thing I see that such opinions could be based on without official sourcing (which I've already stated won't happen) would be hearsay and word of mouth.

Neph himself has not been notified of his offences, though he is inquiring - nor has anyone that I know of been directly informed.

To claim there is "no evidence of wrongdoing" or to disagree on a banning of which you only have speculated details is just a bit over jumping the gun, is it not?

 

Usually, but not always.

For example, a user who registers just to throw the same anime store ad on 12 forums gets immediate ban, as would someone posting Hentai. These are clearcut M2A regs, and you likely don't get a second chance when it happens.

Another example would be an accumulation of moderator corrections. A user who is repeatedly reprimended for failing to respect others, for example, would receive a banning on continued offense. They aren't necessarily told of the ban beforehand, but they should have gathered it would come if they continued to go against mod decision.

Not that either of these necessarily describe Nephilim_X, but there are many cases where a ban would be instated without direct warning.

 

jumbospaceman, lex diamonds, legato, wolfwood, lepper, kame
a bunch of people should be for "upsetting the balance" in the forums. i didn't see neph do anything more outragous than any of their threads. may i point out the virginity thread? there was the one legato had made, in announcements, but i can't seem to find the link anymore (hmm). i''l hunt them down later.

 

jumbospaceman, Wolfwood - what's the offense?
Lex_Diamonds, Legato - agreed.
DrunkLeprachaun, KaMeKaZi - currently protected by "Moderator Status", but should not be excusable. If anything very harsh is brought to my attention, perhaps you're suggesting action should be taken?

Funny you should mention the Virginity thread. It was very widely debated, and many shared the opinions that bannings should have been a result of it. I will say they survived it by a hairline.

As for more outrageous, are you going by single acts, or amount of repeat offenses?

 

True, they are entirely different cases, and probably not the best examples to give, but they are the first that sprang to mind. My point is that no one should have to be told directly that they are in danger of a ban. The warnings accumulated until then, and the consciousness of what they done should have made it self-evident.

As long as we're just debating with hearsay, I've been told he's been known to remark his surprise that he hadn't been banned...

Yes, but it's an irrelevent shield. It's also why I delayed taking action several times - Nephilim_X has a range of supporters in the community that I knew would outcry no matter how justifiable the action taken would be.

True, not every complaint has validity. But there is some degree to where offense is entirely apparent. There is a very big difference between having a baby cherub's behind in your signature as opposed to a full grown angel woman's behind. An offense should be gauged by how serious it is in a general common sense view.

And I suppose you've read all 2,008 posts yourself to confirm this?

In the practices of netiquette, there are no jests. In written form, we lack the eye contact and inflection that is important to how words are preceived. The obvious response is for people to not take things to heart or in serious light, but it can be unavoidable.

Most of his many posts were spam, and he seemed to intentionally flock to and harrass the Newbies and Announcement sections, much like the aforementioned Lex and Legato. In lesser extremes, but in far regular quantity.